Fabricator Chamber Liters Conversion

[Terry Mixon]

I was trying to figure out how many chamber liters of fabricator it would take to be the same internal volume as a large microwave and I question my math, so I am seeking someone less math challenged than myself (namely anyone else at all).

The interwebz tell me 2 cubic feet is just under the largest size and should be easy to calculate. Since a chamber liter is 10cm cubed, I did the math and saw that 60cm is just short of two feet. Excellent!

The only problem is that 6x6x6 means 216 chamber liters to fill a large microwave. As the book says 100 chamber liters is enough for a human body, I have made a mistake in this somehow.

I know that I can’t fit two people into a microwave, so where did I go wrong?

Edit: I measured my own microwave and it comes out to 14x14x8.5. Much more modest. I think the interwebz idea of a large microwave is significantly bigger than my own vision.

If I run with 4x4x3 I get 48 chamber liters. That’s an interior volume of 15.748x15.748x11.811.

It sounds like a 50 chamber liter model is right. It would have been helpful to have rough sizes on those smaller sizes to help visualize them.

Edit 2: And I am still wrong but Geir set me straight. Thanks, man.

 

[Geir]

Each cubic foot is about 28 cubic liters, but what you did was cube the feet once too many. The 6x6x6 is eight times the size of a 2x2x2. So the microwave is about 56 cubic liters - and you'd only be able to stick half a person in there with no room to spare if you ran them through a mulcher first. Or so I hear.

 

[Terry Mixon]

Each cubic foot is about 28 cubic liters, but what you did was cube the feet once too many. The 6x6x6 is eight times the size of a 2x2x2. So the microwave is about 56 cubic liters - and you'd only be able to stick half a person in there with no room to spare if you ran them through a mulcher first. Or so I hear.

I’m unsurprised my math was bad. I was editing my original post with measurements from my own microwave, and that likely means that math is wrong, too.

Thanks for helping a math challenged guy out.

 

[Limpin Legin]

You might also be missing some noughts off the litre to centimetre conversion:

Since a chamber liter is 10cm cubed

1 litre = 1000 cubic centimetres
Average Volume of Human body approximately = 66.4L = 0.0664 cubic meters = 66400 cubic centimetres = 140.3 pints = 70.16 quarts = 17.54 gallons
Large 30 litre microwave is therefore approximately half the volume of an average human

References:

Volume Conversion Calculator | Convert between different Volume units - UnitChefs

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volume human body - Wolfram|Alpha

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Human body mean volume - Human Homo sapiens - BNID 109718

bionumbers.hms.harvard.edu

What Does Litre Mean in Microwave and Oven Measurements?

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[Geir]

There's going to be some slack, too, unless the fabricator is a perfect person-shaped box.

(oh this is all too disturbing, the vision in my head:
1. person-sized mold
2. liquified organic material
3. pour in liquid and sprinkle with nanos
4. bake for about a month (for safety, interior should reach at least 165 degrees Fahrenheit)
5. open mold and extract person)

And now... it's lunch time. For me, not the... oh never mind.

 

[Limpin Legin]

There's going to be some slack, too, unless the fabricator is a perfect person-shaped box.

(oh this is all too disturbing, the vision in my head:
1. person-sized mold
2. liquified organic material
3. pour in liquid and sprinkle with nanos
4. bake for about a month (for safety, interior should reach at least 165 degrees Fahrenheit)
5. open mold and extract person)

And now... it's lunch time. For me, not the... oh never mind.

Ew, hadn't realised the OP wanted a humanoid inside a microwave sized chamber! I was assuming he was just comparing volumes.

 

[Terry Mixon]

Ew, hadn't realised the OP wanted a humanoid inside a microwave sized chamber! I was assuming he was just comparing volumes.

I didn’t. He’s just being… helpful.

 

[Terry Mixon]

You might also be missing some noughts off the litre to centimetre conversion:


1 litre = 1000 cubic centimetres
Average Volume of Human body approximately = 66.4L = 0.0664 cubic meters = 66400 cubic centimetres = 140.3 pints = 70.16 quarts = 17.54 gallons
Large 30 litre microwave is therefore approximately half the volume of an average human

References:

Volume Conversion Calculator | Convert between different Volume units - UnitChefs

Volume Conversion between Barrels of Oil, Cubic Centimeters, Cubic Feet, Cubic Inches, Cups, Ounces, Gallons and more. Try Our Converter Now!

unitchefs.com

volume human body - Wolfram|Alpha

Wolfram|Alpha brings expert-level knowledge and capabilities to the broadest possible range of people—spanning all professions and education levels.

www.wolframalpha.com

Human body mean volume - Human Homo sapiens - BNID 109718

bionumbers.hms.harvard.edu

What Does Litre Mean in Microwave and Oven Measurements?

What does litre mean in the context of microwave and oven measurements? Find out what it means and how to choose the right size.

chefspick.co.uk

A chamber liter isn’t a true liter, hence why I used the cm measurements.

 

[Sigtrygg]

10cmx10cmx10cm is a litre, or, as chemists like to confuse everyone, a cubic decimetre.

 

[Limpin Legin]

10cmx10cmx10cm is a litre, or, as chemists like to confuse everyone, a cubic decimetre.

Ha ha, solves that riddle. Obvious now you point it out

 

[MasterGwydion]

A chamber liter isn’t a true liter, hence why I used the cm measurements.

Why would the writers call something a liter, but not make it a liter? That just seems designed to confuse ppl.

 

[Limpin Legin]

Why would the writers call something a liter, but not make it a liter? That just seems designed to confuse ppl.

Early measurement systems based on anthropic units, such as the cubit, pace, foot and hand, were all a bit ambigious, since they depended upon the dimensions of the human body, and every human's size is different, therefore every measurer would arrive at a different estimate of the same thing.
Cubit - dependent upon the length of one's forearm.
Pace - dependent upon the length of one's stride.
Foot - dependent upon the length of one's foot.
Hand - dependent on the size of an outstretched hand.

With feet alone there are/were several systems:
The US/Birtish imperial system, the Arabic foot, the German Fuß.
The German foot varied widely from place to place. So that the Fuß in Bamberg is 303mm/11.81" and in Breman the same name Fuß is 289mm/11.38", etc, etc.

 

[Terry Mixon]

Why would the writers call something a liter, but not make it a liter? That just seems designed to confuse ppl.

You'd have to ask Gier. I'm just going by what he said elsewhere, if my memory isn't failing me.

 

[Geir]

You'd have to ask Gier. I'm just going by what he said elsewhere, if my memory isn't failing me.

Right in the CSC page 8:
"A chamber litre is a standard 10x10x10 centimetres measurement"
But:
"For installation purposes, the volume of the fabricator itself is twice that of its chamber’s capacity."
Meaning if you want to make something the volume of a litre, the machine is 2 litres big.

The slot thing being 1.5 cl does not help (and I can confuse myself more often than I like to admit). But I've been building on top of a foundation and not blowing up the foundation.

 

[Terry Mixon]

Right in the CSC page 8:
"A chamber litre is a standard 10x10x10 centimetres measurement"
But:
"For installation purposes, the volume of the fabricator itself is twice that of its chamber’s capacity."
Meaning if you want to make something the volume of a litre, the machine is 2 litres big.

The slot thing being 1.5 cl does not help (and I can confuse myself more often than I like to admit). But I've been building on top of a foundation and not blowing up the foundation.

Okay. Now maybe I understand. Maybe.

I think the line in the Central Supply Catalog led me to believe it was different.

"Abbreviated as ‘cl’, it is commonly misattributed as ‘cubic litre’."

I'll try to not confuse things further. Thanks for the explanation.

 

[Sigtrygg]

There is no such unit as a cubic litre.
ml mililitre, cl centilitre, dl decilitre
The litre is a unit of volume by definition, the litre is a cubic decimetre.

 

[Geir]

A cubic litre is like a NIC Card. But as for me, I prefer the fifth, which is a fifth of four litres *hic*

 

[MasterGwydion]

Early measurement systems based on anthropic units, such as the cubit, pace, foot and hand, were all a bit ambigious, since they depended upon the dimensions of the human body, and every human's size is different, therefore every measurer would arrive at a different estimate of the same thing.
Cubit - dependent upon the length of one's forearm.
Pace - dependent upon the length of one's stride.
Foot - dependent upon the length of one's foot.
Hand - dependent on the size of an outstretched hand.

With feet alone there are/were several systems:
The US/Birtish imperial system, the Arabic foot, the German Fuß.
The German foot varied widely from place to place. So that the Fuß in Bamberg is 303mm/11.81" and in Breman the same name Fuß is 289mm/11.38", etc, etc.

The metric system doesn't use any of that. That is why the US is the only country in the world still dumb enough to use the old British Imperial System. Even the brits use metric now, because everything in metric is standard. So, I do not see how this relates to My comment. A Liter is Metric. Cubit, Foot, Pace, Hand, Bushel, hundredweight, etc. None of those are metric. I fail to understand your explanation of "early measurement systems" when I didn't mention early measurement systems. None of what I mentioned (liters) has that problem.

 

[Limpin Legin]

The metric system doesn't use any of that. That is why the US is the only country in the world still dumb enough to use the old British Imperial System. Even the brits use metric now, because everything in metric is standard. So, I do not see how this relates to My comment. A Liter is Metric. Cubit, Foot, Pace, Hand, Bushel, hundredweight, etc. None of those are metric. I fail to understand your explanation of "early measurement systems" when I didn't mention early measurement systems. None of what I mentioned (liters) has that problem.

Mmm ... not sure why you are perplexed with my comment. The OP used reference to both metric/imperial. The comment you were commenting on also did the same. In fact everyone is doing the same. I normally only use metric, but am happy to convert for people. You seem to be the only one who is adherent to metric ... which is fine if you want, but how does that make you relevant to the OP?

Plus, agreed, you didn't mention early measurement systems. I was the one who introduced such systems into the talk, purely to illustrate my reply to your comment. Spelt out, there is history of two units, with same name, but with different measurements. Can you see how that might be relevant to your comment?

 

[Sigtrygg]

Can I just chime in to say that while us Brits may have adopted metric we still routinely use:
ounce, pound, stone, ton
pint, gallon
inch, foot, yard, mile

Ask me how far something is and you get the answer in miles, I know my height in feet and inches (no clue in metric)
I know my weight in stones and pounds (no clue in metric), I go to the pub for a pint...