Firefly returns? :)

3dRed said:
Anyway now that MWP have lost the RPG license for Firefly/Serenity (and BSG) anyone know if anybody else has grabbed it?

I would love it if a certain Swindon based outfit had it. :wink:

Certainly would make a good fit with Traveller.
 
You'd have to change the ship combat a bit... and the ship design system, I seem to remember the Galactica weighing in at the tens of millions of dTons or something equally annoying to build in traveller... especially with its distinct lack of weapons...
 
Firefly would be almost too easy to write a supplement for, TL 10 ish, a different FLT, a few chapters of back ground and job done. The question is, would enough people bother to buy it when you can write it easily yourself?

BSG would take a bit more writing, the TLs, ship design, space travel, space combat and esp robotics would need significant alterations (though quite possible in the MgT system). Not sure about Galactica being underarmed, there are an awful lot of rail guns blazing way at times, not to mention the main offensive weapon, Viper and Raptors. Just no pulse lasers, particle beams and meson guns. May well have a bigger market (the series was much more successful than firefly).

Personally, though, I am still looking forward to the Farscape supplement!

Egil
 
The BSG is armed with...24 main guns. each of which I would say is at most one bay weapon (though they are grouped in slots of 4, so could in fact be 6 railgun bays)
Oh... and up to 514 point defence guns :p...
You can mount all of it on a 27,000 ton hull, so it's short, by a lot.
 
Only if you are applying the trav space craft design rules. The point is Galactica et al are clearly built following different design principles, and the weapons have different capabilities. Under armed, compared to what? Note the extremely rapid fire of Galatica's "guns" and, presumably, a need for huge quanitites of ordanance. She survives repeated attacks, massed battles and a nuclear missile, whilst still being able to hit back.

Egil
 
nats said:
Firefly is on UK Freeview Channel 319 on Monday and for a few more days after that but I think there are only a few episodes left. But they will re-run it in a few weeks.

There is no Freeview UK channel 319, which channel do you mean?

LBH
 
I tend to feel that too much time has now passed to make resurrecting this series as was a good idea, and too little to do a complete reboot. Though I liked the characters in firefly, there were too many for a space opera, more like a soap opera, and some of the acting was notably uncharismatic. The scripts could never work out if they were playing seriously, for laughs, or as ironic comment on the old west, and, in seeking to avoid the melo-drama of some sci-fi, it often ended up as remarkably un-dramatic for a tv series. Firefly always seemed to fall between too many stools, so I am not surprised that it never really took off. Of course, we like it because we can see some of our groups of characters in it, but I just don't think it would fly any better with the watching public if another series was made.

Whats needed is different, original, ideas to make a new sci-fi series, always quite hard to do if you are going to get a big enough audience to make the second series.

Egil
 
I'm re-watching Firefly at the moment and got about half way through. I love the series, and the followup film, but very reluctantly I have to agree that it's had it's day.

Wash and Book are dead. River's experimental treatment and the reason for the Alliance's pursuit of her have been fully explained. The only major plot element that hasn't been resolved is the relationship between Mal and Inara. I don't see significant scope for a spinoff series. Any new production would be very different from the orriginal.

I could be wrong, maybe Joss has loads of ideas for followup, but I would guess that those have all gone into the comics. I'm just very glad that Joss had the opportunity to tie up as many loose ends as he could in Serenity.

Simon Hibbs
 
simonh said:
Wash and Book are dead. River's experimental treatment and the reason for the Alliance's pursuit of her have been fully explained. The only major plot element that hasn't been resolved is the relationship between Mal and Inara. I don't see significant scope for a spinoff series. Any new production would be very different from the orriginal.

Well, plot wise there's Derrial Book's connection with the alliance that was never resolved.
 
simonh said:
...I don't see significant scope for a spinoff series. Any new production would be very different from the original.

What about the whole war prior to the series? Just (or focused on) Mal and Zoe. We only need to get two of the original cast back (possibly even just one, Nathan Fillion) but with room for cameos for (most if not all of) the others if desired. And being a straight up car chases... er space battles and exploding action with guns it should be an easy sell to the studios (we'll slip in the story and plot bits when they aren't looking ;) )

No Serenity (that might even be a catchy title for it) though I can easily see working in a cameo, even recurring, for it too. I've long felt it was previously a troop carrier and one reason Mal insisted on it as his Trader was past favorable experience with the class (maybe even Serenity herself) during the war. He knew just how much heart and soul the ship had. No flash, just lots of strength, unlike the other ships on the lot the day he bought it.
 
far-trader said:
simonh said:
...I don't see significant scope for a spinoff series. Any new production would be very different from the original.

What about the whole war prior to the series? Just (or focused on) Mal and Zoe. We only need to get two of the original cast back (possibly even just one, Nathan Fillion) but with room for cameos for (most if not all of) the others if desired. And being a straight up car chases... er space battles and exploding action with guns it should be an easy sell to the studios (we'll slip in the story and plot bits when they aren't looking ;) )

No Serenity (that might even be a catchy title for it) though I can easily see working in a cameo, even recurring, for it too. I've long felt it was previously a troop carrier and one reason Mal insisted on it as his Trader was past favorable experience with the class (maybe even Serenity herself) during the war. He knew just how much heart and soul the ship had. No flash, just lots of strength, unlike the other ships on the lot the day he bought it.

Starship troopers without the bugs?

Though I like the suggestion that Mal looks at a firefly class and it brings back happy memories of his glory days, I always thought that it was more of case of damaged and battered veteran feeling a sense of spiritual fellow feeling with wornout old ship. Though in reality, wasn't the firefly cheap and not space worthy without repair? Didn't Mal buy her because that was all he could afford?

And that does lead us to an interesting plot hook, where did Mal, junior officer in a defeated rebellion (captured after the disaster at Serenity Valley?) get the money from to but even a clapped out old wreck?

Egil
 
Egil Skallagrimsson said:
And that does lead us to an interesting plot hook, where did Mal, junior officer in a defeated rebellion (captured after the disaster at Serenity Valley?) get the money from to but even a clapped out old wreck?
Reynold's Heroes :wink:
 
The best would be to carry on from where the series left off. If they could get the cast back. The events in Serenity would be at some point in the future. Plan one or two series before the events set up in Serenity come to pass (i.e. Book and Inara leave the ship). Mal obviously knows more about Book's past in Serenity than he does in Firefly. That story arc could come out more.
 
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