Excel Ship Designer v2025.06.13
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MasterGwydion
Emperor Mongoose
A question. When building a TL-15 ship and using a TL-9 Computer, why is no discount given in the price? Isn't it supposed to be discounted by 50% per TL above the base TL? So a Core/40 built at TL-15 should be about 700KCr, not 45MCr
Terry Mixon
Emperor Mongoose
Personally, as that is a rule for computers, I'd love to see it even if it were only optional.
Terry Mixon
Emperor Mongoose
I can't find anything saying the humble fuel tank has a tech level associated with it. Perhaps that is a holdover of a previous edition?yes, I have the Small Craft Fuel Rule set to yes by default. That's not the issue. The issue is you see that little 7 in the TL column? If you are building a TL6 module using Fission it throws an error. Not a big deal because I can ignore the error. but it's there. My comment about the fuel size was just my wondering why fissionable are so huge but it had no relevance to my actual question.
mavikfelna
Banded Mongoose
Ok. That make sense to me. Thank you. Now can we please lower the TL for Standard Fuel Tanks to 6, since there some things you might try to make at that level and you would need them for Fission plants anyway?
MasterGwydion
Emperor Mongoose
Here is a rewritten 50-ton Heavy Fighter. It is ground-based or carrier-based as you don't want to be in it for more than a few hours at a time. I built this for the other thread.
Not sure why it is upset about the Fuel Scoop.
[td width="377pt"]Class: - Heavy Fighter[/td]
Not sure why it is upset about the Fuel Scoop.
| Streamlined, Standard Hull: 20 | ||
| Improved Stealth | ||
| Radiation Shielding: Reduce Rads by 1,000 | ||
| Bonded Superdense Armor: 6 | ||
| M-Drive: 9 , EMP, Armored | ||
| High Burn Thruster: 5 Reduced Size x3 | ||
| Fusion TL 15 Output: 80 | ||
| Armored Bulkheads | ||
| 0 Jumps Available x 1 pc, 4 Weeks of Operation | ||
| Cockpit | ||
| Main Bridge Holographic Controls | ||
| Core/ 40/fib | ||
| Library | ||
| Manoeuvre/0 | ||
| Intellect | ||
| Basic Fire Control/3 | ||
| Evade/3 | ||
| Main Sensor Array: Class V - Advanced x1 | ||
| 1x Enhanced Signal Processing | ||
| 1x Military Countermeasures Suite | ||
| Armored Bulkhead | ||
| EM Hardening | ||
| 1x Single Turret: Fusion Gun EM Hardened, Armored | ||
| 1x Fixed Firmpoint: Burst Laser EM Hardened | ||
| Fuel Scoop Included Free w/ Streamlining | ||
| 2x Acceleration Seats * | ||
| 2.00 tons of Common Areas | ||
| 1x 1.19 Ton Cargo Bay: | ||
| High Automation: Cost x 2; Crew x 0.6 | ||
| CR | ||
| Mortgage: | ||
| Maintenance Cost | ||
| Life Support: | ||
| Crew Salaries: | ||
| Total Expenses: | ||
| 1x PILOT | ||
| 1x GUNNER | ||
| 2 TOTAL CREW | ||
| Power Distribution: Normal (Battle Load) | Available: | 80 PP |
| Basic/Hull | 10/ (5) PP | |
| Maneuver | 45 (45/) PP | |
| Sensors | 10 PP | |
| Weapons | 13 (13) PP | |
| Maximum Load (Battle Load) | 78 (73) | |
| 9a-OPTIONAL ERROR |
[td width="88pt"]
[td width="101pt"] Tons Ship TL 15[/td]
[td]Components[/td]
[td]Tons[/td]
[td]Cost (Cr)[/td]
[td]Hull[/td]
50
[/td][td]
6,000,000.00
[/td][td]
0.00
[/td][td]
10,000,000.00
[/td][td]
0.00
[/td][td]
[td]Armor[/td]
2,500,000.00
[/td][td]
5.76
[/td][td]
[td]M-Drive[/td]
5,760,000.00
[/td][td]
4.95
[/td][td]
[td]High Burn Thruster[/td]
27,090,000.00
[/td][td]
3.50
[/td][td]
[td]Power Plant[/td]
2,100,000.00
[/td][td]
4.00
[/td][td]
16,000,000.00
[/td][td]
0.40
[/td][td]
[td]Fuel[/td]
160,000.00
[/td][td]
[td]Bridge[/td]
0.40
[/td][td]
1.50
[/td][td]
10,000.00
[/td][td]
0.00
[/td][td]
[td]Computer[/td]
2,500.00
[/td][td]
0.00
[/td][td]
[td]Software[/td]
67,500,000.00
[/td][td]
0.00
[/td][td]
0.00
[/td][td]
0.00
[/td][td]
0.00
[/td][td]
0.00
[/td][td]
0.00
[/td][td]
0.00
[/td][td]
6,000,000.00
[/td][td]
0.00
[/td][td]
[td]Sensors[/td]
3,000,000.00
[/td][td]
5.00
[/td][td]
5,300,000.00
[/td][td]
2.00
[/td][td]
8,000,000.00
[/td][td]
15.00
[/td][td]
28,000,000.00
[/td][td]
2.20
[/td][td]
440,000.00
[/td][td]
0.00
[/td][td]
[td]Weapons[/td]
20,650,000.00
[/td][td]
1.10
[/td][td]
3,320,000.00
[/td][td]
0.00
[/td][td]
[td]Systems[/td]
1,275,000.00
[/td][td]
0.00
[/td][td]
[td]Staterooms[/td]
0.00
[/td][td]
1.00
[/td][td]
60,000.00
[/td][td]
2.00
[/td][td]
[td]Cargo[/td]
200,000.00
[/td][td]
1.19
[/td][td]
[td]Automation[/td]
0.00
[/td][td]
0.00
[/td][td]
[td]Total[/td]
0.00
[/td][td width="308pt"]
[td]Ship Expenses[/td]
213,367,500.00
[/td][td]
889,031.25
[/td][td]
17,781.00
[/td][td]
250.00
[/td][td]
8,000.00
[/td][td]
[td]Crew[/td]
915,062.25
[/td][td]
6,000.00
[/td][td]
[td]Power[/td]
[td]ERROR[/td]2,000.00
[/td]Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
According to, what I'll assume is an official answer to that inquiry, the technological level six power plant has the default fuel consumption, at one tenth volume per month.
Fuel required, default.
I've termed it prefusion reactor.
MasterGwydion
Emperor Mongoose
Okay, now why did it mess with the formatting?
Terry Mixon
Emperor Mongoose
Are you using a screen capture and just pasting it? Not highlighting it and copying. A screen capture.
Geir
Emperor Mongoose
Induction plates are an option.
MasterGwydion
Emperor Mongoose
That is My problem. Thank you
Arkathan
Emperor Mongoose
Next Update. I set it to look at the power plant you are using. Fission "fuel" tanks will be TL 4 and Chemical will be TL 5. That way prototypes are covered.Ok. That make sense to me. Thank you. Now can we please lower the TL for Standard Fuel Tanks to 6, since there some things you might try to make at that level and you would need them for Fission plants anyway?
Arkathan
Emperor Mongoose
I'm putting them in under Robot crew on the crew tab... although they might wind up in Options or Staterooms, depending on which way the wind blows when I get to that.
MasterGwydion
Emperor Mongoose
Just out of curiosity... Is Torpedo supposed to be an option for Barbettes? I don't see it listed in C16.
Terry Mixon
Emperor Mongoose
It is supposed to be an option according to the book.
Arkathan
Emperor Mongoose
It is below Tachyon Cannon. You might have to scroll to get to it.
MasterGwydion
Emperor Mongoose
You are correct, I am just a Luddite...
Thank you.mavikfelna
Banded Mongoose
Um, Can someone explain this to me. I built this module and the Cost comes to 55,450,000.00. But the Purchase Price is only 20,655,000.00. Where is the huge discount coming from? Is it something to do with the software, cause that's only 25MCr?
Arkathan
Emperor Mongoose
The MCr 55.450 is correct, the other
Modules don't have their own computers or bridges, so the page doesn't add the totals. The summary being new-ish, I forgot to turn off displaying items from the computer tab.
Basically, by making it as a ship module, they are violating the construction rules. It should be made as a station, fitted in a cargo module or open frame cutter.
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