Double Occupancy

[MasterGwydion]

Based on this, who is not using double occupancy?

Privately-owned, Exploratory (weird that you'd double bunk one exploratory voyages when it specifically states that this can wear on a crew rapidly, but whatever) and Military Ships, as well as Commercial Ships.

What does this leave? Government, non-exploration, non-military ships?

 

[Condottiere]

Starfleet personnel appear to be able to cope.

 

[Arkathan]

Ship's carrying passengers. Although they can also book double occupancy rooms at a 50% upcharge.

 

[Terry Mixon]

Ship's carrying passengers. Although they can also book double occupancy rooms at a 50% upcharge.

I can see parents and kids having linked double occupancy rooms and have built liners around that logic. One for the parents and one for the kids for... reasons.

 

[MasterGwydion]

I can see those as well. It is just written strangely in the book.

 

[swordtart]

I took privately owned to mean ships that are owned by private individuals and therefore not subject to public usage legislation. This accounts for the ships that are owned (or chartered) by at least some of the crew. Small privately owned vessels have exemption from a lot of maritime regulations. I also do not count corporate vessels as privately owned as corporations are not private individuals (and employees have some protections).

I took commercial to relate to trade vessels only. Passenger carriage is normally regulated and so this would only apply to crew accommodations.

It also caveats by saying crew that are not used to it. Long duration exploration vessels will usually have crews that are used to it. Crews that choose to work on tramp traders will also get used to it. People who travel infrequently like passengers would not.

 

[Sigtrygg]

The problem with the boxed section:

the first paragraph fails to mention commercial, then the fluff paragraph mentions them

This is one of the things that really irritates me in HG, the "rules" text says one thing, the tables another, and the fluff text a third... and then everything is just vague enough to cause page after page of discussion on minor (and major) quibbles with the intent of the "rules".

 

[Condottiere]

Those who have psychological issues with that, and don't have the means for an upgrade, don't usually travel.

As regards regulations, I would suppose that would be more concerned with life support, radiation protection, and life boats.

 

[MasterGwydion]

The problem with the boxed section:

the first paragraph fails to mention commercial, then the fluff paragraph mentions them

This is one of the things that really irritates me in HG, the "rules" text says one thing, the tables another, and the fluff text a third... and then everything is just vague enough to cause page after page of discussion on minor (and major) quibbles with the intent of the "rules".

I agree with this wholeheartedly! It comes down to poor quality control. Mongoose needs to pay more attention to consistency in their published writings.

 

[ross]

There’s a huge opportunity for different kinds of living quarters in Traveller. Small personal spaces with huge community spaces like The Martian, huge personal spaces and community spaces like Star Trek, and varied spaces based around the major races in an interstellar polity. The fact that all ships are constructed like WW2 U-boats is not just unfortunate but also unlikely in any post-scarcity or manufactured scarcity scenario where trillions of citizens of different species, and quadrillions of credits, make maintaining a fleet of a few hundred thousand ships all but a trivial fraction of the wealth of the Imperium. Of course that’s just my opinion, I could be wrong.

 

[MasterGwydion]

There’s a huge opportunity for different kinds of living quarters in Traveller. Small personal spaces with huge community spaces like The Martian, huge personal spaces and community spaces like Star Trek, and varied spaces based around the major races in an interstellar polity. The fact that all ships are constructed like WW2 U-boats is not just unfortunate but also unlikely in any post-scarcity or manufactured scarcity scenario where trillions of citizens of different species, and quadrillions of credits, make maintaining a fleet of a few hundred thousand ships all but a trivial fraction of the wealth of the Imperium. Of course that’s just my opinion, I could be wrong.

For Tramp Traders, I usually use the Serenity as my example of Single-Occupancy Medium Staterooms. As is shown with Simon and River, they use a Medium Stateroom at double occupancy. In a liner this may be different. I tend to use Star Trek Officer's Quarters as an example of Luxury Staterooms.

 

[Condottiere]

Cargo holds aren't always full.

Nor, fuel tanks.

Would watch out for chemical contamination.