Do you want a book of chaos for Glorantha?

Do you want the "Book of Chaos" for MRQ?

  • Yes, definitly

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  • What is chaos?

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  • No, I don't want broos to impregnate my new carpet

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Then again, I could also see some foolish lizard-kisser believing that chaos is an expression of the Cosmic Dragon (conveniently ignoring the dragonnewt view of Chaos) and unleashing all sorts of problems in the empire.

That would certainly be a problem and temptation for the lesser orders of the EWF, who would have trouble discerning the difference between what Chaos has to offer and the true, destructive nature of Orxili. But for the higher echelons, and especially the Eternal Dragon Ring (as led by Obduran the Flyer), Chaos is a meaningless concept that is inherently defeated through the infinite nature of the dragon.

So the lower orders are definitely at risk. If they can swerve the temptations of Chaos - which constantly gnaw at the dragon's limbs - then they will eventually transcend it and rupture it; just as the Cosmic Dragon ruptured Orxili.
 
as far as a Zistorite having a taint of chaos. I dont think they would allow a Uroxi near that place except as a captive. And if a Uroxi or other claim that he sensedd Chaos on a Zistorite, would any of the Zistorites believe some smelly barbarian . Then I dont see Storm Bulls being much welcomed int the EWf either.
 
Loz said:
If Chaos could be directed against Dara Happa and the EWF, then the GLs would be happy to meddle, but again, that's a dangerous strategy because Chaos is quite capable of meddling right back.

This could be a very good way of approaching a book on Chaos

Yes, a campaign book involving chaotic cults or a GL-induced chaotic revival, rather than an all-out 'Chaos book', which wouldn't be in line with Second Age material.
 
A Chaos Book has been added to the Glorantha schedule. Where in the schedule is another matter :wink: because there's loads to accommodate, but its definitely one we'll tackle.

See? We DO listen...!
 
Loz said:
A Chaos Book has been added to the Glorantha schedule. Where in the schedule is another matter :wink: because there's loads to accommodate, but its definitely one we'll tackle.

See? We DO listen...!
Great. 8)
and many thanks.

I know that the Mongoose team is very open and responsive to suggestions. In fact I think it is more about the good idea/concept than the mere number of supporters. Some books from the Conan RPG also originate from proposals stemming from the forum.

Ruins of Hyboria, for instance, was asked for some years ago on the "What should Mongoose publish next" forum (I can't remember who made the proposal, however I was an ardent supporter). Curiously there weren't many who supported the idea but the book was released about one year later and is considered one of the best book of the line (with the regional books). This is also probably the reason as to why Mongoose decided to decline it to "Ruins of Glorantha".
 
Not only a Bump but as a book of chaos will see the light of the day and as Mongoose "listen" (i.e. read) what we say (write), may be we can orientate the subject on what we would like be included.

As far as I am concerned, I would prefer a general book on chaos to learn things we don't know as I already posted above (Bolongo, the parts of the devil, other mysteries, etc.)

[EDIT] Of course this is not to say I don't want anything 2nd age related but I am very curious about these subjects.
 
Loz said:
A Chaos Book has been added to the Glorantha schedule. Where in the schedule is another matter :wink: because there's loads to accommodate, but its definitely one we'll tackle.

See? We DO listen...!

Great news! If your looking for a title for the chaos book can I suggest calling it The Book of Drastic Resolutions. Lords of Terror states The Book of Drastic Resolutions is "...the most infamous of lost texts on expounding upon chaos." Arkat was suposed to have destroyed all "known" copies he could find.
If not the title than can the book contain information on blaphemous texts like the Book of Drastic Resolutions? Cults would be nice. Some history would be nice.
 
Great news! If your looking for a title for the chaos book can I suggest calling it The Book of Drastic Resolutions.

And unfortunately that title's already in use. Stephen Martin released it a few years ago in fanzine format so I've no idea what the status of the title is on the copyright/TM front.

Can I stress, though, that any book on chaos, whatever its called, isn't imminent yet? It might be quite a while before anyone starts work on it.
 
BTW to those who may wonder at the apparent silly question of the poll "What is chaos", let's consider it is a Nysalor riddle.

So may be this field can be added to the "Yes" answers. 8)
 
The King said:
All the better then to begin sketching it out. :) (or at least to propose some ideas)

There's lots of other good, Gloranthan stuff to be done first. Not least Fronela, my next Gloranthan book.

Chaos will have to wait a while - even in sketch format and ideas proposition.
 
All this talk about a Chaos book, and the Dara Happa Stirs preview with the Scarlet Concubine has made me re-read the Book of Drastic Resolutions, volume Chaos. Well... there was some mean Chaos in that book!!!! Can we hope we'll get something similar in due time? I know Chaos is not 'big' in the 2nd Age, but it can't simply have vanished between the 1st and the 3rd Ages!
Atyar, Than and Thanatar should be big in the Second Age. Same for Krasht, and obviously ditto for the Ralian Borists.
 
Time for some major facepalming! I've been re-reading the MRQ books a bit more closely and there are some major hints that the God Learners are messing with some fairly dangerous stuff:

Students HeroQuesting myths where they take the part of Chaos gods, myths where uz gods are Chaotic, making new gods etc.

CultsII says that many Thanatar temples are close to GL centers of learning.

I disagree. I'm thinking that in many (if not ALL) cases, the Thanatar temples ARE the centers of learning.

1) At the dawn, there are two cults, each a part of a dead chaos god. Then, somehow, they re-unite. That sounds like God Learners in action to me. The stuff that Mongoose has published has already established that the GLs have created at least two new gods (Zistor and some other, unnamed, god in Pamaltela IIRC). Taking Than and Atyar and recombining them sounds right up their alley.

2) Thanatar steals knowledge. Wouldn't that just appeal to the GLs? Why bother trying to worm your way into the confidence of some smelly barbarians, when you can just cut their heads off and take what knowledge you want.

3) As for the requirements/geases to eat sentient flesh? All you'd have to do is go down to the slaughterhouses and, under the guise of "blessing" the livestock, cast "Release Intelligence." Like some ignorant pig herder could tell the difference.

4) Ram's Horns? "Yes, poor Tompkins. Got caught in the backlash when a spell went awry. Well, these things happen and it's all for the greater good. Someday he'll have to get rid of them, of course, but for now ..."

5) Chaos? All good GLs know that chaos is just primitive superstition, it's not real. Yes, they cut off heads and imprision the souls, yes they devour books, yes they sacrifice POW to Thanatar/Than/Atyar, yes they steal knowledge, but it's not as if they really MEAN it.

There is another thread about what cults are on the covers of CultsI and CultsII. I'd say that CultsII shows a God Learner academic with a couple of undergrads.
 
As far as thanatar being a Gods learner creation. If I remember right a Renagade Lhankor My Priest(Illuminated?) found his skull in the Eastern Islands and brought the skull to Kralorela . Beside when the Gods learner where in Kralorela during the Imperial age when would a Lhankor My Priest be allowed or found in Kralorela? I can see the God learners hiring some Lhankor My sages during their early incursion into Kralorea to help them interep some of the secrets they found in Kralorea , not the major secrets of course but with the small stuff like the location of some dead chaos God skull.
 
So is Chaos just a nebulous force that sometimes covers certain monsters in it's domain or is it more defined than that?
 
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