Dilgar - What is a Pentacon?

fluffy05

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For a Newbie who hasn't bought the Dilgar Fleet book - Yet :D

What is a Pentacon?

I am about to start a 3rd Fleet (I have EA and Centauri) :wink:
 
Its the same as a squadron, except you can nominate it to "skip" once in the initiative sequence. So its basically a free initiative sink.
 
That was the rule explenation... the fluff explenation would be that a pentacan is a formation of usually five, but sometimes also four to six ships flying in an inverted "V", with the (usually biggest) commd ship in the middle and lighter escorts on the tips. Dilgar forces have a lot of training for using pentacan fomations, and that gives them some advantage in formation fighting
 
ShadowScout said:
That was the rule explenation... the fluff explenation would be that a pentacan is a formation of usually five, but sometimes also four to six ships flying in an inverted "V", with the (usually biggest) commd ship in the middle and lighter escorts on the tips.
Just to be clear, the formation they fly in, and the position of any ships, is irrelevant in this game.

Wulf
 
fluffy05 said:
Thanks Guys. I was trying to figure out the advantages of Dilgar as I don't have the book yet.
Masters of Destruction is a more important advantage (but combining the two is even better!)

Wulf
 
Thanks Guys. I was trying to figure out the advantages of Dilgar as I don't have the book yet.

Don't forget the Masters of Destruction trait. Certain weapons go to double or even triple damage when they score a critical. Combined with a large number of AD they can produce some rather spectacular ship explosions at times.
 
And its really funny to look at your opponent's face when you nominate one of their ships as a mass driver target - muahahahahahaha!!!!!!!11111 :twisted:
 
Ok So Dilgar can use Master of Destruction - I'm guessing a CQ check to multiply damage to target being shot at?

I have EA (and a small Centauri force) and am weighing up what to get next - Dilgar, Minbari, Narn?

I have limited funds at the moment and will collect them all given time but need to choose which to collect next :D
 
fluffy05 said:
Ok So Dilgar can use Master of Destruction - I'm guessing a CQ check to multiply damage to target being shot at?
Nope. Any crit from a Bolter is Triple Damage instead of Double. Any hit from a Pulsar is Double Damage instead of Single. On Every crit from those weapon types.

Wulf
 
Wulf Corbett said:
fluffy05 said:
Ok So Dilgar can use Master of Destruction - I'm guessing a CQ check to multiply damage to target being shot at?
Nope. Any crit from a Bolter is Triple Damage instead of Double. Any hit from a Pulsar is Double Damage instead of Single. On Every crit from those weapon types.

Wulf

Ouch :shock:

I was looking at the Ship viewers to get an idea on Dilgar. With the dice they can through out with those Bolters etc that would hurt!
 
Ouch Shocked

I was looking at the Ship viewers to get an idea on Dilgar. With the dice they can through out with those Bolters etc that would hurt!

Indeed. And the Dilgar fighers use twinlinked dd bolters. Using 6-7 of them last night, I killed about 37 crew off of a War level Narn Ship. Of course, it being Narn, that was only about a third of the crew, but still.

I just wish master of destruction was on all of our weapons. I keep forgetting that Torpedos don't get it. :D
 
I didn't think the fighters got to use the MOD - they have twin bolt cannons, not bolters

That's correct. The fighters don't get that little bonus. It's kind of like the Narn G'Karith and E-Mine variants. Even though the weapon has the e-mine trait, becasue it is named "Pulsar mine" instead of "Energy Mine" you aren't allowed to use the e-mine variants.
 
Which kinda sucks for the G'Karith. I'd love to be able to dump shipbreakers out of both ends of one. A piddly little 4AD emine that cannot use variants does not a main weapon make. Now with Shipbreakers and TL for the Pulse cannons (plus a few AD added in the A/P/S arcs), I could see this thing being a serious option to the Katoc/tan.
Its only rel advantage going for it is the 2/45 turn; both the hull 4 and the weak guns are the pits compared to the NBS Skirmish ships. At least a Katoc/tan can take a few beam hits before going pop; the few times ive used them in the past even a half-assed roll from a main beam weapons makes G'kariths go boom.

Oh ya. G'stens work very well against Vorlons for some reason. I was managing about 15-25 dam a turn with one against a Vorlon Dest. just make sure the Vorlons have something else to try and shoot at, otherwise the go boom real fast.

END THREAD HIJACK. We now return you to your normally scheduled forum thread.
 
The Narn and the Dilgar had a very interesting and occasionally mutually profitable relationship through the early stages of the Dilgar war, with technology transfer in both directions. Where did the freakishly unprecedented laser cannon on the Ochlavita come from? The Narn Mag Gun is basically a Mass Driver throwing a ball of plasma instead of a solid lump of rock. Derived from the Centauri mass driver? Yeah, right.
I have to admit, I seldom Pentacon, because with the smaller ships, I prefer the freedom of movement, and the initiative sinking. With the larger ships, I'm not sure what actually needs to be hit with that sort of firepower.
Two related matters; first, the shock of actually, for once, seeing the Dilgar at the other end of the table. Secondly, working out how the EA managed to win the Dilgar War. An old friend passing through, experienced wargamer in general but not in ACtA, he took the Dilgar and I took Early EA. 5-Raid, Call to Arms.
Fleet choice, on his part- one Targrath, three Jashakar, three Rohric. I was skeptical. Me, EA(eurgh), a Nova, two S&P Saggi, two Artemis, two Olympus, two Missile Tethys, two Hermes.
Steve called the game after losing all the Jashakar, the Targrath and one of the Rohric. I was down a Hermes, an Artemis and about a quarter of the Nova. Strike Cruisers and Assault Ships don't belong in the same fleet list- they can't support each other.
It was messy. So after that we changed ends, metaphorically speaking, and I took a Dilgar hunting pack out and killed one of the Ancients with it, just to set the record straight. Be aware of that, though; potentially, the Early EA list can beat the Dilgar at their own game.
 
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