Cutter and Stitcher
- Thread starter Exubae
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Banned Beetle
Mongoose
Exubae said:
Yes, he's credited in many of the books! :shock:
Trif.
Banned Beetle
Mongoose
Take a look at that signature:
I rest my case!
Trif.
I rest my case!
Trif.
OldMongooseFordy
Administrator
I'm tempted to just delete this post but unfortunately I haven't got a clue WTF you guys are on about!!
Fordy
Cutter & Stitcher
Mongoose Editor
Fordy
Cutter & Stitcher
Mongoose Editor
Banned Beetle
Mongoose
MongooseFordy said:
He thinks you aren't REAL! :roll:
Trif.
Cutter and Stitcher are supposedly the two creatures created/summoned by Delecti to create the Stitched Zoo. However, they may in fact post-date the zoo and the EWF and be something Delecti the Necromancer created/summoned to maintain the magic he created around his stronghold in the Upland Marsh.
So, I don't know if they've appeared in 2nd Age in any definitive fashion. In the 3rd Age they have appeared in "Tales of the Reaching Moon" and are not in any official piece of Gloranthan lore that I am aware of.
...but they are a popular bit of lore. Until they're Gregged, I think I'd consider them 'real' enough.
Jeff
P.S. I find their use in referring to the editing as highly offensive.
So, I don't know if they've appeared in 2nd Age in any definitive fashion. In the 3rd Age they have appeared in "Tales of the Reaching Moon" and are not in any official piece of Gloranthan lore that I am aware of.
...but they are a popular bit of lore. Until they're Gregged, I think I'd consider them 'real' enough.
Jeff
P.S. I find their use in referring to the editing as highly offensive.
Exubae said:
Oh no. The Zoo is definitely from the EWF era. Just not sure about Cutter and Stitcher - who only appear in TotRM, as far as I know. I don't know, I just like the image of dedicated teams of EWF sorcerer-priests creating the zoo like a bunch of deranged Dr. Killdares.
Jeff
gamesmeister
Banded Mongoose
Voriof said:
As far as I'm concerned, anything that appeared in Tales was official. Much of Glorantha's most interesting works appeared in Tales, and as it kept the flag flying for many a dark year, Greg has no right to dump on it (especially as I'm pretty sure David Hall corresponded a great deal with him on many of the topics).
homerjsinnott
Mongoose
gamesmeister said:
I agree, but I'm unsure why Greg would dump on it, have I missed something?
homerjsinnott said:
Me neither. I think someone's overreacting again.
Anyone who's a member of the Gloranthan Trading Association knows just how much Greg values David Hall's contributions. Every HeroQuest publication notes his contributions which are second to none save Greg himself (and maybe Sandy Petersen - the only other 'Demigod' listed). He is Elmal, the stalwart flame when everything else was dark.
I simply said note that many things that have appeared in TotRM have been adopted as canonical and have appeared in offical publications but many have not.
Jeff
In King of Sartar the stitched zoo is a product of the warped remakers at Voss Varainu. It kind of gives the idea that its an order of scientist doing the remaking.
Cutter crops up though (or a cutter crops up) as a centaur who butchers his mate into a horse and a human, after a a trick played by Eurmal in the Butcher's Story (KS pg 224)
Who knows, perhaps Stitcher and cutter where created by the Remakers to help with their task, only they made them too well.
or
They're a cople of Undead horrors, reanimated head honchos of the remakers.
Cutter crops up though (or a cutter crops up) as a centaur who butchers his mate into a horse and a human, after a a trick played by Eurmal in the Butcher's Story (KS pg 224)
Who knows, perhaps Stitcher and cutter where created by the Remakers to help with their task, only they made them too well.
or
They're a cople of Undead horrors, reanimated head honchos of the remakers.
Exubae said:
That was my impression as well. Evil Mad Science!
Quite right. But I suspect that's not Cutter and Stitcher cutter. Or at east, not more than in an alegorical fashion.
Well, possibly. I think they're not the head honchos though. At least as far as 3rd Age is concerned. I think they just wrk for Delecti. They are supposedly undead though.
Jeff
B_Steele
Mongoose
I as well. Fordy has a tough job, and hearing ill thoughts about it here is not very kind.
Not to mention, it probably does nothing to endear him (or any of the rest of us) to further opinions.
More flies with honey than vinegar, you know.
As writers we expect our stuff to occasionally get edited out, that's why we are getting paid for our work. The tools do not complain to the carpenter when the walls get a window put in them, and other cliches.
Well, back to work for me.
Bry
Sorry, but I have to take offense with those who take offense at the use of cutting & Stitching for editing. It is rather accurate, and if it doesn't bother surgeons, to be referred to in such terms I can't see how editors can take offense.
Now if they were being referred to as butchers and duct-tapers....
Now if they were being referred to as butchers and duct-tapers....
gamesmeister
Banded Mongoose
homerjsinnott said:
Not at all, I was just responding to Jeff's comment that Cutter & Stitcher would stay until Gregged.
I didn't mean they would be Gregged, in fact there's nothing to suggest they would, I was just pointing out that they shouldn't be. :wink:
