p159. Damage. Some of the paragraphs after the daggers start with italics and some of them don't.
p161. at top of page "saving throw modifier" is defined as "Base save bonus + ability modifier", at bottom of page Initiative check includes "Reflex save modifier" and "Dexterity modifier". Is Dexterity meant to be included in initiative twice? The Initiative Check formula is also printed twice on this page.
p162. First line. Mention should be made that characters with Combat Reflexes can make AoO when flat-footed.
p163 Armour Piercing. non-mighty bows should be changed to non-composite bows.
p165. Bull Rush provokes AoO
Tindertwig?
Withdraw does not provoke AoO
Should maybe read "Action Type Variants" instead of "Varies"
Trip an Opponent should be a Maybe for AoO.
p166. Top of column two. half-orc
p168. Fighting on the Run. Should delete "with a melee weapon" from the first sentence. It's cooler that way.
p169. Top of column two. shuriken.
p174. Bonuses to speed. change "barbarian" to "fleet-footed character" and "heavy armour" to "medium or heavy armour, in which case the bonus is +5"
p175. Squeezing. Third paragraph. Armour Class should be DV
p176. Minimum Movement. reference to being held
p176. Combat Modifiers. Can you say "The true finesse of d20 combat" in an OGL game?
p177. CONCEALMENT should be in big red letters.
p179. DISARM should be in big red letters.
p179. bottom of column 1, change "spiked gauntlet" to "gauntlet". The equipment section make no mention of "locked gauntlets."
p181. Mounted Combat (Horses in Combat). Mention of warponies and ponies. Heavy horse should be work horse.
p182. OVERRUN should be in big red letters.
p183. THROW SPLASH WEAPON should be in big red letters.
p184. Thrown weapons. Darts, shuriken & bolas are not in the equipment section.
p186. Hooking Parry. Parry roll should be "Parry DV"?
p187. Sundering Parry. should be "penalty to your Parry bonus"?
p187. Multiple Opponents. Middle of example. "This time however Llyr's Defence Value has a -2 circumstance penalty."
p161. at top of page "saving throw modifier" is defined as "Base save bonus + ability modifier", at bottom of page Initiative check includes "Reflex save modifier" and "Dexterity modifier". Is Dexterity meant to be included in initiative twice? The Initiative Check formula is also printed twice on this page.
p162. First line. Mention should be made that characters with Combat Reflexes can make AoO when flat-footed.
p163 Armour Piercing. non-mighty bows should be changed to non-composite bows.
p165. Bull Rush provokes AoO
Tindertwig?
Withdraw does not provoke AoO
Should maybe read "Action Type Variants" instead of "Varies"
Trip an Opponent should be a Maybe for AoO.
p166. Top of column two. half-orc
p168. Fighting on the Run. Should delete "with a melee weapon" from the first sentence. It's cooler that way.
p169. Top of column two. shuriken.
p174. Bonuses to speed. change "barbarian" to "fleet-footed character" and "heavy armour" to "medium or heavy armour, in which case the bonus is +5"
p175. Squeezing. Third paragraph. Armour Class should be DV
p176. Minimum Movement. reference to being held
p176. Combat Modifiers. Can you say "The true finesse of d20 combat" in an OGL game?
p177. CONCEALMENT should be in big red letters.
p179. DISARM should be in big red letters.
p179. bottom of column 1, change "spiked gauntlet" to "gauntlet". The equipment section make no mention of "locked gauntlets."
p181. Mounted Combat (Horses in Combat). Mention of warponies and ponies. Heavy horse should be work horse.
p182. OVERRUN should be in big red letters.
p183. THROW SPLASH WEAPON should be in big red letters.
p184. Thrown weapons. Darts, shuriken & bolas are not in the equipment section.
p186. Hooking Parry. Parry roll should be "Parry DV"?
p187. Sundering Parry. should be "penalty to your Parry bonus"?
p187. Multiple Opponents. Middle of example. "This time however Llyr's Defence Value has a -2 circumstance penalty."
Noted on rpg.net.
p159. Second column: "Note that armour limits your Dexterity bonus, so if you are wearing armour, you might not be able to apply your whole Dexterity bonus to your Dodge Bonus." (Entire paragraph should be moved under Dodging, next page.)
Following paragraph: Three references to Dexterity bonus should be to "dodge or parry bonuses".
p161. Flat-footed. References to Dexterity bonus should be to "dodge or parry bonuses."
p162. Unaware Combatants. Same as above.
I'm beginning to think that cut & paste is not your friend.
p159. Second column: "Note that armour limits your Dexterity bonus, so if you are wearing armour, you might not be able to apply your whole Dexterity bonus to your Dodge Bonus." (Entire paragraph should be moved under Dodging, next page.)
Following paragraph: Three references to Dexterity bonus should be to "dodge or parry bonuses".
p161. Flat-footed. References to Dexterity bonus should be to "dodge or parry bonuses."
p162. Unaware Combatants. Same as above.
I'm beginning to think that cut & paste is not your friend.
bastion_korupt
Mongoose
Alot of errors are present in this book, no doubt about that. But some of them are clearly not rules-related.
When the Official Errata is released, could someone separate the grammatical errors from the rules errors please?
Having to wade through p. xx period should replace comma p. xz The instead of There type errors to get to the ones that actually impact game play/rules reference would be a headache.
Certainly include them, but perhaps a FAQ section answering and clarifying any rules errors... AND THEN a page by page errata of the whole book would be GREAT!
When the Official Errata is released, could someone separate the grammatical errors from the rules errors please?
Having to wade through p. xx period should replace comma p. xz The instead of There type errors to get to the ones that actually impact game play/rules reference would be a headache.
Certainly include them, but perhaps a FAQ section answering and clarifying any rules errors... AND THEN a page by page errata of the whole book would be GREAT!
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bastion_korupt said:
Good idea! 8)
p67. Thief Trap Sense ability doesn't seem nearly as useful without Uncanny Dodge as a Class Feature.
p112. Blind-Fight (Benefit Paragraph 2) should read "dodge or parry bonus to DV" instead of "Dexterity bonus to Armour Class"
p112. Blind-Fight (Normal) should read "dodge or parry bonus" instead of "Dexterity bonus"
p116. Focused Magical Link (Benefit): should be "(see page 198)"
p112. Blind-Fight (Benefit Paragraph 2) should read "dodge or parry bonus to DV" instead of "Dexterity bonus to Armour Class"
p112. Blind-Fight (Normal) should read "dodge or parry bonus" instead of "Dexterity bonus"
p116. Focused Magical Link (Benefit): should be "(see page 198)"
p200. Draw Forth the Heart. Prereq should be Conjuring, not conjuration
Burst Barrier. Prereq should be Conjuring, not prestidigitation
Telekinesis. Ditto
Greater TK. Ditto.
p204. Draw Forth the Soul. Material component indicated, but not described.
p209. Entrance. Focus & Material comonent indicated, but not described.
p213. Summon Beast. Components line should include XP
p213. Animal Ally. Components line should include XP
p214. Children of the Night. Ditto.
p215. Summon Beast, Greater. Ditto.
p216. Black Plague. Missing mighty spell dingbat.
p218. Black Plague, Greater. Ditto.
p218. Draw Forth the Heart. Prereq should be conjuring instead of conjuration.
p219. Shape-shifter. Says "twice your scholar level in Hit Dice (to a maximum of 50 HD)". Scholars go past level 20?
p221. Burst Barrier. Prereq should be conjuring instead of prestidigitation.
p221. Telekinesis. Prereq should be conjuring instead of prestidigitation.
p221. Telekinesis. Second last sentence should read "The main advantage of telekinesis over simply . . ."
p221. Greater Telekinesis. Prereq should be conjuring instead of prestidigitation.
p221. Greater Telekinesis. First sentence should be "This works much like telekinesis, except as follows:"
p224. Greater Demonic Pact. Missing mighty spell dingbat.
p224. Summon Demon. Components line should include XP.
p225. Summon Elemental. Ditto.
p225. War of Souls. This section could use some sort of introduction.
p235. Lotus Smoke. Costs are given for green, green, grey. Which one is black?
p236. Table8-7. Khitan Socerer Level 5. Does not have the Lesser Ill-fortune prereq to take Gelid Bones at this level.
Burst Barrier. Prereq should be Conjuring, not prestidigitation
Telekinesis. Ditto
Greater TK. Ditto.
p204. Draw Forth the Soul. Material component indicated, but not described.
p209. Entrance. Focus & Material comonent indicated, but not described.
p213. Summon Beast. Components line should include XP
p213. Animal Ally. Components line should include XP
p214. Children of the Night. Ditto.
p215. Summon Beast, Greater. Ditto.
p216. Black Plague. Missing mighty spell dingbat.
p218. Black Plague, Greater. Ditto.
p218. Draw Forth the Heart. Prereq should be conjuring instead of conjuration.
p219. Shape-shifter. Says "twice your scholar level in Hit Dice (to a maximum of 50 HD)". Scholars go past level 20?
p221. Burst Barrier. Prereq should be conjuring instead of prestidigitation.
p221. Telekinesis. Prereq should be conjuring instead of prestidigitation.
p221. Telekinesis. Second last sentence should read "The main advantage of telekinesis over simply . . ."
p221. Greater Telekinesis. Prereq should be conjuring instead of prestidigitation.
p221. Greater Telekinesis. First sentence should be "This works much like telekinesis, except as follows:"
p224. Greater Demonic Pact. Missing mighty spell dingbat.
p224. Summon Demon. Components line should include XP.
p225. Summon Elemental. Ditto.
p225. War of Souls. This section could use some sort of introduction.
p235. Lotus Smoke. Costs are given for green, green, grey. Which one is black?
p236. Table8-7. Khitan Socerer Level 5. Does not have the Lesser Ill-fortune prereq to take Gelid Bones at this level.
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Keep going. I'm there are some typos in the index, too... oh yeah, and the back cover.. did you check the map? :roll:
Ken.
Ken.
bastion_korupt
Mongoose
I think the idea of this thread is to compile ALL errors. However, it would be nice if someone seperated all the grammar and spelling errors from the rules and setting errors.
I personally dont give two wits about grammatical errors if there are more important questions needing to be answered. And in this case there are.
I don't think that Tarot was trying to degrade the game. Just helping.
So Ken, why don't you lighten up a bit then? eh? :lol:
I personally dont give two wits about grammatical errors if there are more important questions needing to be answered. And in this case there are.
I don't think that Tarot was trying to degrade the game. Just helping.
So Ken, why don't you lighten up a bit then? eh? :lol:
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Anonymous
Guest
I think that's because they based the spell (in part) on the pre-errata 3.5 version of the Shapechange spell. Errata does mention upper limit is current class level, not twice (with a max at 25 HD, not 50)
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Anonymous
Guest
I've seen two references to Massive damage, one says save or you are reduced to -1 hp, the other one says save or die...
Which is it?
Thanks, and have a nice day.
Which is it?
Thanks, and have a nice day.
Well, the back cover is a bit schitzophrenic about how to spell "roleplaying," but I wasn't going to mention that.
And there is at least one typo in the Index, but I will leave that as an exercise for the class.
Yes. I did let my frustration cause me to include a handful of the more amusing typos that I found. But trust me, I have shown incredible restraint in regards to spelling and grammar.
And there is at least one typo in the Index, but I will leave that as an exercise for the class.
Yes. I did let my frustration cause me to include a handful of the more amusing typos that I found. But trust me, I have shown incredible restraint in regards to spelling and grammar.
p86. Balance (Being Attacked). "Dexterity bonus to DV" should be "dodge or parry bonus to DV"
p86. Bluff (Feinting). Ditto.
p87. Climb. Ditto. Well, I'd allow you to stop, hold on with one hand, draw a light weapon and parry. Paragraph also says that you can cast a spell one-handed, while Sorcery chapter differs.
p179. Feint. "Dexterity bonus to DV" should be "dodge or parry bonus to DV"
p177. Helpless Defenders (Regular Attack). Ditto and Armour Class should be DV.
p180. No Dexterity Bonus. Should be No Dodge or Parry Bonus. "Dexterity bonus to DV" should be "dodge or parry bonus to DV". Exception: Human Shield manoeuvre.
p86. Bluff (Feinting). Ditto.
p87. Climb. Ditto. Well, I'd allow you to stop, hold on with one hand, draw a light weapon and parry. Paragraph also says that you can cast a spell one-handed, while Sorcery chapter differs.
p179. Feint. "Dexterity bonus to DV" should be "dodge or parry bonus to DV"
p177. Helpless Defenders (Regular Attack). Ditto and Armour Class should be DV.
p180. No Dexterity Bonus. Should be No Dodge or Parry Bonus. "Dexterity bonus to DV" should be "dodge or parry bonus to DV". Exception: Human Shield manoeuvre.
p298. Belit's Black Corsairs.
Initiative should be +4 (+1 Dex, +3 Reflex)
Attack & Full Attack: AP3 for hunting spear & AP4 for Shemite bow omitted.
Saves: Reflex +4
Skills: I think there are 4 unspent.
p298: Picts
Attack: Club +2 melee (1d8+1/x2,AP2);or hunting bow +4(1d8/x2,AP1*)
Full Attack: Club and primitive hatchet +2/+2 melee (1d8+1/x2,AP2 and 1d6/x2); or hunting bow +4/+4 (1d8/x2,AP1*)
Saves: Will -1
Skills: I count two ranks too many.
Feats: I count one too many.
p299: Turanian
DV (Dodge vs. Ranged) should be +3 targe
Attack: Light lance +3 melee (1d10+1/x3, AP3); or Hyrkanian bow +5 ranged (1d10/19-20, AP3*)
Full Attack: as Attack, above
Special Attack: Should be 4 & 6 range increments as the feat Far Shot has been taken.
Saves: Fort +4
Skills: I count 4 too many.
p299: Badger
Attack & Full attack: Claws +4 and bite -1
p290: Boar
Initiative: +3 (Reflex)
DV: 12 (+2 natural)
Attack & Full Attack: AP value varies?
Initiative should be +4 (+1 Dex, +3 Reflex)
Attack & Full Attack: AP3 for hunting spear & AP4 for Shemite bow omitted.
Saves: Reflex +4
Skills: I think there are 4 unspent.
p298: Picts
Attack: Club +2 melee (1d8+1/x2,AP2);or hunting bow +4(1d8/x2,AP1*)
Full Attack: Club and primitive hatchet +2/+2 melee (1d8+1/x2,AP2 and 1d6/x2); or hunting bow +4/+4 (1d8/x2,AP1*)
Saves: Will -1
Skills: I count two ranks too many.
Feats: I count one too many.
p299: Turanian
DV (Dodge vs. Ranged) should be +3 targe
Attack: Light lance +3 melee (1d10+1/x3, AP3); or Hyrkanian bow +5 ranged (1d10/19-20, AP3*)
Full Attack: as Attack, above
Special Attack: Should be 4 & 6 range increments as the feat Far Shot has been taken.
Saves: Fort +4
Skills: I count 4 too many.
p299: Badger
Attack & Full attack: Claws +4 and bite -1
p290: Boar
Initiative: +3 (Reflex)
DV: 12 (+2 natural)
Attack & Full Attack: AP value varies?
p302. Cattle
DV: 13 (+1 Dex, -1 size, +3 natural)
Attack: Gore* +6 melee (1d8+4) or bite +3 melee finesse (1d3+4)
Full Attack: Gore* +6 melee (1d8+4) or bite +3 melee finesse (1d3+4)
Saves: Will +1
p303. Eagle, Giant
Attack: Claw +6 melee
Full Attack: 2 claws +6, bite +1
Saves: Fort +4
p304. Elk
Initiative: +6 (+2 Dex, +4 Reflex)
Attack & Full Attack: Damage bonus from Str should be +7 for all.
Saves: Fort +7
p305. Warhorse, Bhalkana
Full Attack: bite damage (1d4+2)
Feats: Should include Multiattack
p306. Warhorse, Stygian
Full Attack: bite damage (1d4+2)
p306. Hyena
Initiative: +5 (+2 Dex, +3 Reflex)
Base Attack/Grapple: +2/+6
p307. Raven
Initiative: +4 (+2 Dex, +2 Reflex)
DV: 14 (+2 size, +2 Dex)
Base Attack/Grapple: +0/-12
Attack/Full Attack: both are finesse
p308. Sabre-tooth
Initiative: +5 (+1 Dex, +4 Reflex)
Attack: Claw +9
Full Attack: claws +9, bite +4
Saves: Reflex +5
p309. Snake, Ghost
Base Attack/Grapple: +9/+23
p309. Snake, Son of Set
Initiative: +15 (+2 Dex, +13 Reflex)
p309. Snake, Greater Son of Set
Initiative: +26 (+2 Dex, +24 Reflex)
DV: 37 (-8 size, +2 Dex, +33 natural)
Base Attack/Grapple: +33/+64
Attack/Full Attack: Bite +40
Saves: Will +15
p310. Snakes, all
Initiatives: All the totals are correct, all the components are wrong.
p312. Spider, Giant
Attack/Full Attack: are finesse
SQ: vermin traits are not described
Saves: Fort +8
p312. Wolf
Initiative: +5 (+2 Dex, +3 Reflex)
Base Attack/Grapple: +1/+2
Attack/Full Attack: are finesse
p313. Last paragraph. If everyone is immune to the Terror of a monster, simply by having seen a creature once before, then the Demon Killer feat is unnecessary. Suggest: "Monsters in this section all force Terror saves. At the GM's discretion, some of the larger. . ."
DV: 13 (+1 Dex, -1 size, +3 natural)
Attack: Gore* +6 melee (1d8+4) or bite +3 melee finesse (1d3+4)
Full Attack: Gore* +6 melee (1d8+4) or bite +3 melee finesse (1d3+4)
Saves: Will +1
p303. Eagle, Giant
Attack: Claw +6 melee
Full Attack: 2 claws +6, bite +1
Saves: Fort +4
p304. Elk
Initiative: +6 (+2 Dex, +4 Reflex)
Attack & Full Attack: Damage bonus from Str should be +7 for all.
Saves: Fort +7
p305. Warhorse, Bhalkana
Full Attack: bite damage (1d4+2)
Feats: Should include Multiattack
p306. Warhorse, Stygian
Full Attack: bite damage (1d4+2)
p306. Hyena
Initiative: +5 (+2 Dex, +3 Reflex)
Base Attack/Grapple: +2/+6
p307. Raven
Initiative: +4 (+2 Dex, +2 Reflex)
DV: 14 (+2 size, +2 Dex)
Base Attack/Grapple: +0/-12
Attack/Full Attack: both are finesse
p308. Sabre-tooth
Initiative: +5 (+1 Dex, +4 Reflex)
Attack: Claw +9
Full Attack: claws +9, bite +4
Saves: Reflex +5
p309. Snake, Ghost
Base Attack/Grapple: +9/+23
p309. Snake, Son of Set
Initiative: +15 (+2 Dex, +13 Reflex)
p309. Snake, Greater Son of Set
Initiative: +26 (+2 Dex, +24 Reflex)
DV: 37 (-8 size, +2 Dex, +33 natural)
Base Attack/Grapple: +33/+64
Attack/Full Attack: Bite +40
Saves: Will +15
p310. Snakes, all
Initiatives: All the totals are correct, all the components are wrong.
p312. Spider, Giant
Attack/Full Attack: are finesse
SQ: vermin traits are not described
Saves: Fort +8
p312. Wolf
Initiative: +5 (+2 Dex, +3 Reflex)
Base Attack/Grapple: +1/+2
Attack/Full Attack: are finesse
p313. Last paragraph. If everyone is immune to the Terror of a monster, simply by having seen a creature once before, then the Demon Killer feat is unnecessary. Suggest: "Monsters in this section all force Terror saves. At the GM's discretion, some of the larger. . ."
p302. Cattle
Average hp should be 38.
p306. Hyena
Average hp should be 19.
p309. Ghost Snake
Hit Dice: 12d8+34 (88hp)
p312. Spider, Giant
Changed mind. Fort Save at +4 was correct.
Constitution should be 12, and now hp are correct.
p314. Bodiless Slimer
Attack: grapple +12
Full Attack: +12/+7
p315. Black Fiend
Full Attack: claws (1d6)
Magic Attack Bonus: +4 Charisma
p316. Child of the Dark
DV: +6 Shadows, in text is +4
p317. Smoke-serpent
Hit Dice: average hp should be 44.
Attack/Full Attack: strangle +19
p318. Uncanny Steed
Hit Dice: average hp should be 52.
Initiative: +10 (+4 Dex, +6 Reflex)
Attack: Hoof +17
Full Attack: 2 hoofs +17, bite +15
Saves: Fort +8, Ref +10, Will +5
p319. Elemental, Earth
Initiative: +6 (Reflex)
Attack/Full Attack: slam +26
p320. Elemental, Fire
Base Attack/Grapple: +15/+34
Attack/Full Attack: slam +19
Saves: Will +10
p321. Elemental, Water
Saves: Fort +13
p324. Man-Ape
Hit Dice: average hp should be 39
p329. Werehyena, Human Form
Base Attack/Grapple: +3/+5
Attack/Full Attack: war spear damage (2d4+3/x3, AP4)
hunting bows do not have strength ratings, so: Hunting bow +3 ranged (1d8/x2, AP1)
Saves: Ref +5, Will +3
Abilities: Wis 10
Feats: Replace Toughness with Improved Initiative, add Track
p329. Werehyena, HYENA form
Base Attack/Grapple: +3/+9
Saves: Will +3
Abilities: Wis 10
Wolf Empathy should be Hyena Empathy
p330. Werewolf, Human Form
Initiative: +9 (+4 Improved Init., +5 Reflex)
Attack/Full Attack: broadsword damage (1d10+1/19-20, AP4)
hunting bow AP1
Saves: Ref +5
p330. Werewolf, Wolf Form
Initiative: +11 (+2 Dex, +4 Improved Init., +5 Reflex)
Saves: Ref +7
Average hp should be 38.
p306. Hyena
Average hp should be 19.
p309. Ghost Snake
Hit Dice: 12d8+34 (88hp)
p312. Spider, Giant
Changed mind. Fort Save at +4 was correct.
Constitution should be 12, and now hp are correct.
p314. Bodiless Slimer
Attack: grapple +12
Full Attack: +12/+7
p315. Black Fiend
Full Attack: claws (1d6)
Magic Attack Bonus: +4 Charisma
p316. Child of the Dark
DV: +6 Shadows, in text is +4
p317. Smoke-serpent
Hit Dice: average hp should be 44.
Attack/Full Attack: strangle +19
p318. Uncanny Steed
Hit Dice: average hp should be 52.
Initiative: +10 (+4 Dex, +6 Reflex)
Attack: Hoof +17
Full Attack: 2 hoofs +17, bite +15
Saves: Fort +8, Ref +10, Will +5
p319. Elemental, Earth
Initiative: +6 (Reflex)
Attack/Full Attack: slam +26
p320. Elemental, Fire
Base Attack/Grapple: +15/+34
Attack/Full Attack: slam +19
Saves: Will +10
p321. Elemental, Water
Saves: Fort +13
p324. Man-Ape
Hit Dice: average hp should be 39
p329. Werehyena, Human Form
Base Attack/Grapple: +3/+5
Attack/Full Attack: war spear damage (2d4+3/x3, AP4)
hunting bows do not have strength ratings, so: Hunting bow +3 ranged (1d8/x2, AP1)
Saves: Ref +5, Will +3
Abilities: Wis 10
Feats: Replace Toughness with Improved Initiative, add Track
p329. Werehyena, HYENA form
Base Attack/Grapple: +3/+9
Saves: Will +3
Abilities: Wis 10
Wolf Empathy should be Hyena Empathy
p330. Werewolf, Human Form
Initiative: +9 (+4 Improved Init., +5 Reflex)
Attack/Full Attack: broadsword damage (1d10+1/19-20, AP4)
hunting bow AP1
Saves: Ref +5
p330. Werewolf, Wolf Form
Initiative: +11 (+2 Dex, +4 Improved Init., +5 Reflex)
Saves: Ref +7
Jason Durall
Mongoose
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Poison Use is said to be on p. 123 when it is actually on p. 124
Poison Use is said to be on p. 123 when it is actually on p. 124
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