We are trying out a classless system one of the players here came up with. I thought it was kind of interesting.
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Taking a page from the Mutants and Masterminds system, I'd like to make a point buy. Yes, that means a remake (at least slightly) of all the characters. Also, experience is a lot different. At the end of each session, you'd get a point or two or five to spend. You can bank them to save up for a jump to the next level (10 points for access to the next level's abilities) or you could just spend them to up a skill or stat immediately.
1st level characters get 100 points (this assumes a 32 point stat buy using Living Greyhawk rules)
Race:
Selected as normal--no point cost, the skills and abilities are free
Class:
There are no classes; however, characters get a 1 point discount is the class ability they buy is from a favored class (for example, a Zamorian can buy sneak attack for 4 points vice 5 point since Thief is his favored class)
Characteristics
VALUE COST
8 0
9 1
10 2
11 3
12 4
13 5
14 6
15 8
16 10
17 13
18 16
Hit Points
D4=1 point
D6=2
D8=3
D10=4
Level:
Each level past 1st costs 10 points.
Saves: (may not exceed normal maximum for level--+4 at 3rd Level)
+1 Save for 3 points
Base Attack: 7 points per
Defense Bonus: 7 points per (this gives you +1 for Dodge AND Parry)
Magic Attack 7 points per
Skills Ranks 1/1
Feats 3 points each
Class Abilities 5 points each (4 points for abilities from favored class; all class abilities must be purchased in order of progression; note that Simple/Martial Weapon Proficiencies and Armor Proficiencies are Class Abilities)
A few rules in effect:
- you cant buy more BAB/MAB/Defense that a character of your level could have from the perspective of the best class for that trait (so at 4th level the best BAB you could have is +4, the best MAB is +2 and the best defense is +3)
- you cant buy a class ability that has a prerequisite unless you buy the prerequisite (so you cant buy Sneak Attack +2D6 unless you have Sneak Attack +1D6)
- you cant buy class abilities unless you are the proper level (so you coulnt buy Crimson Mist unless you were second level).
- At the moment we are playing 1st levels get 100 points, and +40 points per each further level.
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We are having some fun with this, and the conversion of the regular system to the classless comes out about the same. THe characters tend to be more focused, less broad.
Mad Dog
START---
Taking a page from the Mutants and Masterminds system, I'd like to make a point buy. Yes, that means a remake (at least slightly) of all the characters. Also, experience is a lot different. At the end of each session, you'd get a point or two or five to spend. You can bank them to save up for a jump to the next level (10 points for access to the next level's abilities) or you could just spend them to up a skill or stat immediately.
1st level characters get 100 points (this assumes a 32 point stat buy using Living Greyhawk rules)
Race:
Selected as normal--no point cost, the skills and abilities are free
Class:
There are no classes; however, characters get a 1 point discount is the class ability they buy is from a favored class (for example, a Zamorian can buy sneak attack for 4 points vice 5 point since Thief is his favored class)
Characteristics
VALUE COST
8 0
9 1
10 2
11 3
12 4
13 5
14 6
15 8
16 10
17 13
18 16
Hit Points
D4=1 point
D6=2
D8=3
D10=4
Level:
Each level past 1st costs 10 points.
Saves: (may not exceed normal maximum for level--+4 at 3rd Level)
+1 Save for 3 points
Base Attack: 7 points per
Defense Bonus: 7 points per (this gives you +1 for Dodge AND Parry)
Magic Attack 7 points per
Skills Ranks 1/1
Feats 3 points each
Class Abilities 5 points each (4 points for abilities from favored class; all class abilities must be purchased in order of progression; note that Simple/Martial Weapon Proficiencies and Armor Proficiencies are Class Abilities)
A few rules in effect:
- you cant buy more BAB/MAB/Defense that a character of your level could have from the perspective of the best class for that trait (so at 4th level the best BAB you could have is +4, the best MAB is +2 and the best defense is +3)
- you cant buy a class ability that has a prerequisite unless you buy the prerequisite (so you cant buy Sneak Attack +2D6 unless you have Sneak Attack +1D6)
- you cant buy class abilities unless you are the proper level (so you coulnt buy Crimson Mist unless you were second level).
- At the moment we are playing 1st levels get 100 points, and +40 points per each further level.
END----
We are having some fun with this, and the conversion of the regular system to the classless comes out about the same. THe characters tend to be more focused, less broad.
Mad Dog
They are talking about a gamesystem which implements a classless version of d20.
