Carrier

[IanDate]

I do think that the power of fighters and carriers should be improved. Fighters die too easily. I think that the dodge trait for fighters should be altered.

I think the dodge trait should have two values, the first is against any weapon that does not have the anti fighter trait, and the second, (worse) value against any weapon with the anti fighter trait.

A Starfury flight for example would have something like a 2+/5+ dodge save.

Anyway onto the role of fighters and carriers, they should be a force multiplier. This is true to some extent now with the command trait that most carriers have, but a Possidon/Morshin/whatever load of fighters should be able to do more than die heroicly hurling themselves at whatever a player throws them against.

Short ranged or no, fighters should be capable of dealing some really nasty damage.

Carriers shouldn't have an long ranged (8"+) weaponary, but their close in defensive firepower should be pretty fearsome, enough to buy the carrier enough time to jump, as they are a valuable investment.

The way the system handles fighters really need to be looked at I think.

Ian

 

[frobisher]

Well we've never really seen a B5 carrier in the show, for any race, so how they would work is open to debate/interpretation.

The Omega is a carrier, as is the Sharlin, G'Quan, Primus, Warlock and the Nova.

They aren't fleet carriers but as they carry fighters, they are carriers and would be designated such in wet navies. As it stands, each of those deploys about double the number of fighters of each of the UK's current naval carriers.

The Galactica is fleet carrier, it's primary purpose being to bring the fighters into the fray, the ones above bring themselves and the fighters (in smaller numbers).

 

[Wolfgod]

I'd just like to see carriers comparable to other warships of their PL, right now I rarely see a Morshin when a player can take a Tinashi, or an Avenger in place of an Omega.

If possible, I'd like to see a real role for carriers in the fleet as a whole; there's little reason to bring a ship dedicated to fighter superiority if gaining fighter superiority does not come with an advantage (like +1 init, or being able to do 'fighter strike' special actions or something). This is not to say I want to play WWII in the Pacific in space; I like brawling space battles. I'd just like for the Carriers to have a role in them.

 

[lastbesthope]

As it stands, each of those deploys about double the number of fighters of each of the UK's current naval carriers.

Currently, or in the very near future, the British Royal Navy will have no carrier fighters, all Harriers are being moved to land bases.

Silly isn't it?

LBH

 

[emperorpenguin]

As it stands, each of those deploys about double the number of fighters of each of the UK's current naval carriers.

Currently, or in the very near future, the British Royal Navy will have no carrier fighters, all Harriers are being moved to land bases.

Silly isn't it?

LBH

yup we'd best hope the Argies don't exploit the window of opportunity...

at least it'll only be temporary until the new CVFs and JSFs are operational

 

[Jal]

yup we'd best hope the Argies don't exploit the window of opportunity...

at least it'll only be temporary until the new CVFs and JSFs are operational

it`s nearly the right time for Eire to invade England, time for Cromwell to pay his dues :!: :twisted: :twisted:

 

[emperorpenguin]

yup we'd best hope the Argies don't exploit the window of opportunity...

at least it'll only be temporary until the new CVFs and JSFs are operational

it`s nearly the right time for Eire to invade England, time for Cromwell to pay his dues :!: :twisted: :twisted:

invade with what!? a handful of patrol boats and 6 siai-marchetti prop planes!? :lol:

 

[lastbesthope]

at least it'll only be temporary until the new CVFs and JSFs are operational

That gap will not be as short as you might think, don't get me started on that subject!

LBH

 

[emperorpenguin]

at least it'll only be temporary until the new CVFs and JSFs are operational

That gap will not be as short as you might think, don't get me started on that subject!

LBH

6 years during which the RAF harriers will have to cover the gap...

 

[emperorpenguin]

The Royal navy had carriers that were well armoured but only carried 12 planes...... While the USN and IJN had carriers that were vulnerable, but could carry up to 80 - 100 planes.

Only 12 planes!? :? I think you're getting confused with the current Royal Navy carriers! :lol:

In WW2 the Royal Navy had carriers just as big and fighter laden as the US and Japan

 

[Wulf Corbett]

Only 12 planes!? :? I think you're getting confused with the current Royal Navy carriers! :lol:

Actually, I think he is right, but he's talking about the Escort Carriers converted from freighters...

Wulf

 

[emperorpenguin]

Only 12 planes!? :? I think you're getting confused with the current Royal Navy carriers! :lol:

Actually, I think he is right, but he's talking about the Escort Carriers converted from freighters...

Wulf

I was hoping he meant those and not thinking the RN had piddly lil carriers

 

[Jal]

yup we'd best hope the Argies don't exploit the window of opportunity...

at least it'll only be temporary until the new CVFs and JSFs are operational

it`s nearly the right time for Eire to invade England, time for Cromwell to pay his dues :!: :twisted: :twisted:

invade with what!? a handful of patrol boats and 6 siai-marchetti prop planes!? :lol:

luckily Terry Wogan is an Irish sleeper agent, and come the next Eurovision song contest... we strike with our five divisions of Shane Mcgowan clone troopers!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[emperorpenguin]

luckily Terry Wogan is an Irish sleeper agent, and come the next Eurovision song contest... we strike with our five divisions of Shane Mcgowan clone troopers!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Our Tel is a knight of the realm! we'll swap you for Bobby Robson...

 

[Chernobyl]

Yeah, I wouldn't hold your breath on the JSF...that jack-of-all-trades will indeed be "master of none" in my estimation. The Raptor, on the other hand, is looking to be quite the fearsome fighter plane.

 

[Wulf Corbett]

Yeah, I wouldn't hold your breath on the JSF...that jack-of-all-trades will indeed be "master of none" in my estimation.

One of the ugliest things ever to fly.

Wulf

 

[Chernobyl]

I guess the latest issue of popular science hasn't gotten over there yet...

 

[bucky_bits]

I think the carriers we see now are pretty good. The thing is they are limited in the roll you can put them in. Fighters are not strong enough against anti fighter weaponry. As an EA player the carriers are all Fleet carriers and are Battle or higher. I think they should make a STRIKE CARRIER. High speed, decent hull (5-6), less fighters (how ever make the fighters more durable The 2+/5+ dodge for normal/anti-fighter weapons). The U.S. currently has Strike carriers that are a small fleet rolled into one. Get there fast and make 'em hurt. The ship should have a good compliment of Troops and Pods that come with it. I was thinking 5 flights of fighters and 3 flights of Breaching pods come with it. One turret mounted Anti-fighter weapon and range 12" pulse cannons with 3 AD Twin linked on all arcs. Loose the fleet carrier ablility and No command. I was just an Idea. Let me know what you think.

 

[Slightly Norse John]

It's the wrong comparison, really. The key is in the phrases 'air' and 'sea' power. Ships and fighters in space are moving through the same medium. They have none of the advantages the whole air/water asymmetry gives real fighters, to say nothing of cool stuff like being able to hide behind the horizon. We're looking at the equivalent of, at best (Skyserpent), PT boat equivalents, at worst (Kotha), man-in-dinghy-with-rocket-launcher.

 

[Shadow Queen]

The F22 the sex of the skies