Canon ships

Sean-Khan

Mongoose
Hello,
I'm wondering if there's a list of B5 ships that are canon everywhere. Of course most people know most obvious cases, but I guess there may be several ships that have been in the show but only for a glimpse. Here's some list I made according to my knowledge:

Centauri: Vorchan, Primus, Sentri
Human: Omega, Hyperion, nova, Warlock, starfury, thunderbolt, psi corps mothership, shadow omega, explorer
Minbari: Sharlin, and Tigara (I guess this is the one in B4 episodes - although it's a millenia old...), Nial, Flyer
Narn: G'Quan and frazi, and less obvious T'Loth
Vorlon: Transport, destroyer, cruiser (heavy or light or both?)
Shadows: Ships, scouts, fighters
ISA: White Star, Victory/Excalibur
Raiders: Delta fighters, strike carrier

I don't know enough NA ship names to get there, but Drazi sunhawk & Brakiri Avioki I know for sure. Vrees had saucers, but there's again several models at Mongoose site, so I can't say for sure...

And of course space stations (not all as minis I think), B5 itself and those of Ragesh and the Narn colony that was shadow-assaulted, earth orital platforms, plus several freighters (I think there's only canon ones in the game?). Can't say much about Drakh either.

Can anyone fill my list or do corrections?
 
Centauri: Kutai and Balvarin
Raiders: Battlewagon
Human: Olympus, Shadow-Hunter
Vree: Xorr and Xill
Brakiri: Avioki
Drazi: Sunhawk
Drakh: Mothership, Light Raiders
Other: Ipsha Warglobe, Lumati Transport, Technomage Pinnace

add these for sure.
 
Centauri: We also see the Demos (in series 5) sepcifically as it fires balistic torpedoes

Narn: "I do believe you've got it surrounded"

Earth Alliance: We also see the Olympus gunship in 'In the Beginning' and in 'Gropos' we see a Badger starfury briefly (it has a tail gunner).

Minbari: It's a Tinashi actually, we never see a Tigara onscreen.

Vorlons: It's the heavy cruiser we see onscreen.

ISA: We also see the Bluestar in 'sleeping in light'. We never see the Nolotar/Liandra though. Nope. WE NEVER SAW THEM. IT NEVER HAPPENED :P

Raiders: I believe we see a battlewagon in one epsiode? I could be wrong there though. We certainly see freighters (modified or not).

Psi Corps: The shadow hunter makes an apperance in one episode of crusade

Brakiri: We only see the Avioki as far as Im aware

Vree: We see the Xorr and the Xill on numerous occasions

Drakh: We see heavy raiders and we also see various heavier ships though they seem to look quite different onscreen to the minis in some cases....

Drazi: We see Sunhawks, Warbirds, at least one Strikehawk and Sky serpents

Abbai, Pak'Ma'Ra, Dilgar, Gaim: We never see their ships

Ancients: All seen in 'Into the Fire'

Technomages: Pinnace seen on numerous occasions in crusade

Ipsha Warglobe and Lumati Transport are both seen on one occasion, the Hurr never are though.

Have I missed anything?
 
Green_Knight said:
Centauri: Kutai and Balvarin
Drakh: Mothership, Light Raiders

Ok when do we EVER see a Kutai or Balvarin? I cant remember EVER seing a Centauri warship in any of the shows or movies that wasnt a primus or vorchan hull....


As for the Drakh, see my previous post ;) Pretty sure the raiders we see are the heavier variety and whilst we do see various cruisers/motherships Im not sure you can really count the ACTA versions as 'canon' since they dont really look THAT close to whats shown onscreen.....
 
Drazi: Darkhawk (in S5, loads of Drazi ships firing missiles at Centauri, they are Warbird-style hulls though)
 
Centauri: Primus, Vorchan, Sentri, shuttle, atmospheric shuttle, liner/freighter, scarab transport, Balvarin, Kutai. Ragesh colony.

Narn: T'Loth, G'Quan, Frazi, transport. Stations: listening post and Quadrant 14.

Minbari: Sharlin, flyer, Nial, Tinashi, transport.

EA: Omega, Hyperion, Nova, Explorere, Warlock, Aurora, Badger, Thunderbolt, Explorer, Olympus, Shadow Omega, breaching pod, EarthForce One, shuttle, atmospheric shuttle, maintainance fury, Shadow Hunter. Orion space station, Babylon 5, GOD sattelite.

ISA: Whitestar, Victory, Valen (LotR), Valen (TLT), Bluestar, Liandra.

Vorlon: transport, fighter, planet killer, destroyer, cruiser.

Shadows: ship, scout, fighters, cloud.

Drakh: raider, breaching pod/shuttle, cruiser, two sorts of mothership/carrier, tanker.

First ones: five types.

Brakiri: Tashkat, Avioki.

Vree: Xill, Xorr

Drazi: Sunhawk, Sky Serpent, Warbird, shuttle

Others: Markab ship, Lumati transport, Ipsha warglobe, Moradi warship and shuttle, Redhelm ships and breaching pod, Thrirdspace ship and fighters, Technomage pinnace.

Civilian ships include: liner, freighter, tanker, Ironheart's transport, Marie Celeste, cargo handling drone, Skydancer.

Psi Corps: mothership and Black Omega.

There are at least two other un-named races that have ships.


Edit: wow, while I was typing this there were a bunch of replies.

I forgot the raiders: strike carrier, delta-V, battlewagon (Thirdspace I think), C&C station.
 
Also techincally I believe the Primus that attacks the station at the end of series 2 is I believe supposedly a secundus (since it only fires ion cannons/twin arrays/heavy arrays depending on which version of b5wars/ACTA you look at ;))
 
Locutus9956 said:
Green_Knight said:
Centauri: Kutai and Balvarin
Drakh: Mothership, Light Raiders

Ok when do we EVER see a Kutai or Balvarin? I cant remember EVER seing a Centauri warship in any of the shows or movies that wasnt a primus or vorchan hull....


As for the Drakh, see my previous post ;) Pretty sure the raiders we see are the heavier variety and whilst we do see various cruisers/motherships Im not sure you can really count the ACTA versions as 'canon' since they dont really look THAT close to whats shown onscreen.....

dude, the Balavarin is in The lost tales, that may be where the Kutai is too, and greg has it right that the tashkat is seen as well, i only remember it in TLT, on patrol outside B5
 
hiffano said:
Locutus9956 said:
Green_Knight said:
Centauri: Kutai and Balvarin
Drakh: Mothership, Light Raiders

Ok when do we EVER see a Kutai or Balvarin? I cant remember EVER seing a Centauri warship in any of the shows or movies that wasnt a primus or vorchan hull....


As for the Drakh, see my previous post ;) Pretty sure the raiders we see are the heavier variety and whilst we do see various cruisers/motherships Im not sure you can really count the ACTA versions as 'canon' since they dont really look THAT close to whats shown onscreen.....

dude, the Balavarin is in The lost tales, that may be where the Kutai is too, and greg has it right that the tashkat is seen as well, i only remember it in TLT, on patrol outside B5

Really? When, will go back and try to spot them :P

EDIT: Do you mean in the bottom right corner for a nanosecond in the clip of them fighting against the EA? cos if thats all Im not sure you can really say: yep that's a Balvarin, its little more than vague silouette... still not sure where the Kutai is supposed to be?
 
the balvarin is in the battle scene, um, i think lower right to the Warlock. the tashkat also I recall is seen lower rightof B5, it's a bit cutoff in the scene i remember, kinda a greyish and yellow colouring
 
If we are including variants (which are actually a product of the games rather than the show)

Secondus, Demos, Darkhawk, Pulse Omega, pak'ma'ra Warbird, Strikehawk.
 
There are TLT images and links to images in this thread: http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=29618&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=balvarin&start=0
 
Locutus9956 said:
Ok when do we EVER see a Kutai or Balvarin? I cant remember EVER seing a Centauri warship in any of the shows or movies that wasnt a primus or vorchan hull.........

fleet2.jpg


fleet.jpg


and there is a Tashkat too in a pic

b5-1.jpg
 
Ah I see, yep cant argue with that definitely a Balvarin. Not conviced about the Kutai still though...

EDIT: Ok watched that bit again and I give in, it is indeed a Kutai :)
 
hiffano said:
dude, the Balavarin is in The lost tales, that may be where the Kutai is too, and greg has it right that the tashkat is seen as well, i only remember it in TLT, on patrol outside B5

You can see the Tashkat in some of the Brakiri fleet shots when they are getting ganked by the Shadows in the series.
 
Silvereye said:
hiffano said:
dude, the Balavarin is in The lost tales, that may be where the Kutai is too, and greg has it right that the tashkat is seen as well, i only remember it in TLT, on patrol outside B5

You can see the Tashkat in some of the Brakiri fleet shots when they are getting ganked by the Shadows in the series.

I shall look out for it when i re-watch them ;-)
 
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