Bridge tonnage discrepancy

[Ezarhon]

I used both these books to create a Ship and found a Bridge tonnage discrepancy between them at the 100Ton range. Which one is considered official?

 

[MongooseMatt]

2024!

 

[Ezarhon]

Sweet, cheers Matt.

 

[Fluffy Bunny Feet]

I used both these books to create a Ship and found a Bridge tonnage discrepancy between them at the 100Ton range. Which one is considered official? View attachment 5376

Funny thing is I made that exact change for my Universe just because I didn't like the bridge size break being 100 instead of the tonnage ending in 1 for the other start ranges. Makes your scout ship/seeker have a little extra cargo, even more with a small bridge.

Now those ships are legal!

 

[Condottiere]

You could jump with a small three tonner.

Though, might actually (ill)fit in with Scout trope.

 

[Fluffy Bunny Feet]

Being a small cramped ship? Seems to fit the 3 ton Bridge of a Scout, even more so a Seeker.

Of course for my campaign setup the "Empire" has switched to a 180 ton TL 11 3g J-2 Explorer with various hull types for different missions (all with basic stealth, some with a 100 ton module). Versions without the stealth fulfilling Survey and courier roles inside the Empire (and their Trade Alliances outside the Empire). All of which are commonly used when sold off for trade and other uses.

 

[AnotherDilbert]

So HG from 2022 is already outdated?

 

[Ezarhon]

Hmmm, both Scout ships in the 2022 update have a listed 10 ton bridge, which, if a 6 ton Bridge is now standard to a 100 ton hull, gives the 2 ships 4 extra tons of cargo space each. So yeah. It looks like the 2024 rules needs an update....

 

[Terry Mixon]

So HG from 2022 is already outdated?

It was outdated the first time some author went freestyle in making new High Guard elements in a random adventure or supplement.

 

[AnotherDilbert]

Hmmm, both Scout ships in the 2022 update have a listed 10 ton bridge, which, if a 6 ton Bridge is now standard to a 100 ton hull, gives the 2 ships 4 extra tons of cargo space each. So yeah. It looks like the 2024 rules needs an update....

As they should according to the HG'22 system:

HG'22, p19.


Apparently Core'24 changes that, and perhaps the standard ships such as the Scout?

 

[AnotherDilbert]

It was outdated the first time some author went freestyle in making new High Guard elements in a random adventure or supplement.

Well, OK, but they generally add stuff (whether compatible or not), not change the basic components.

 

[Ezarhon]

Feature creep is a sad ever present element in Traveller since day 1 in '77. Each new 'update' breaks something somewhere. Still tho, we do keep buying each new shiny book that gets published so more of the same then, sticky notes plastered over already outdated tables. ;-)

 

[Terry Mixon]

I've cross-posted this in the High Guard Update feedback thread. A total of 4 ships in the book are affected.

 

[Arkathan]

Either someone didn't look at the new table prior to including ship examples, or someone typo'd the 100 ton spot on the Core table, because the scout variants in the new Core book all have ten ton bridges, consistent with HG'22.

 

[Ezarhon]

Either someone didn't look at the new table prior to including ship examples, or someone typo'd the 100 ton spot on the Core table, because the scout variants in the new Core book all have ten ton bridges, consistent with HG'22.

One thing that Marc did do well was QC. Once he nerfed a rule it stayed nerfed... well till he nerfed it again that is...

 

[Condottiere]

I'd move on to workstations.

 

[Terry Mixon]

Either someone didn't look at the new table prior to including ship examples, or someone typo'd the 100 ton spot on the Core table, because the scout variants in the new Core book all have ten ton bridges, consistent with HG'22.

@MongooseMatt said the table is correct in the 24 Core rulebook Update. Seems that no one fixed the ships.

 

[Ezarhon]

I was contemplating grabbing a phys copy of the HG'22, maybe I will wait for the '26 update.

 

[Fluffy Bunny Feet]

So when do the core computers get fixed? I think they have been broken ever since they were introduced. (TL 12, TL 13 and TL 15 prices).

 

[Terry Mixon]

So when do the core computers get fixed? I think they have been broken ever since they were introduced. (TL 12, TL 13 and TL 15 prices).

There is the optional rule for retrotech. That can make them much more affordable.