Blake's 7 Liberator
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lucasdigital
Banded Mongoose
The Chef said:
Ommadawn's right -
http://www.blakes7.com/index.php/2008/04/sky-one-to-remake-blakes-7/
If the scripts aren't great, or if there's wrangling over the who owns what, it may never get made, but at least there's the recognition that this was an SF TV landmark, worthy of revisiting.
lucasdigital
Banded Mongoose
EDG said:
Definitely! I recall having a tiny die-cast model of it. Every adult who ever saw it asked me which way the thing was supposed to fly. When they ask you that, you know the design is "alien".
DSV2 'Liberator'
Ship length (excluding sensor probe) 24.84 Millispacials
2380 ft (725.42 Mt) 1 Millispacial = 95.81 ft
Life zone = 12 Decks deep - Main crew deck = Deck 6
Life zone = 280ft - Crew area = 175ft. Cargo bays = 105ft long.
Deckplan area = 57 1.5 Mt squares long x 36 wide.
Bibliography/Videography
Horizon B7 Tech manual (Vols 1,2 & 3)
Horizon B7 Role-playing game
Blake's 7 'The Inside Story - Nazzaro/Wells
Ep 2 'Space Fall'
Ship length (excluding sensor probe) 24.84 Millispacials
2380 ft (725.42 Mt) 1 Millispacial = 95.81 ft
Life zone = 12 Decks deep - Main crew deck = Deck 6
Life zone = 280ft - Crew area = 175ft. Cargo bays = 105ft long.
Deckplan area = 57 1.5 Mt squares long x 36 wide.
Bibliography/Videography
Horizon B7 Tech manual (Vols 1,2 & 3)
Horizon B7 Role-playing game
Blake's 7 'The Inside Story - Nazzaro/Wells
Ep 2 'Space Fall'
Terrible Tim
Mongoose
Cool stuff. What quality are the books?
The Liberator has always been a favourite of mine but you can't find anything to do it justice. The Corgi are cute but I have always wanted something with more detail. Recently I found TitanFind and they have a great model of not just the Liberator but several other B7 ships. You can find them at http://www.titanfind.com/ Have fun.
Scarecrow
Banded Mongoose
I came here via SFRPG.org and thought I could help.
I built an actual size - 725.42 Metres (excluding sensor needle) block model of the liberator from this picture:
I was unable to find any plans so this was the most side-on image I could find.
This is the model:
The various sections break down like this (using 1 dTon = 13.5 cubic metres):
Propulsion Sphere: 2,643,598.5 cubic metres - 195,822.1 dTons
Main Body (excluding needle): 3,009,118.25 cubic metres - 222,897.6 dTons
Nacelle: 2,437,932.75 cubic metres - 180,587.6 dTons
x3 = 541,762.8 dTons
Nacelle Arms: 80,596.71 cubic metres - 5,970.1 dTons
x3 = 17,910.4
For a grand total of (not including sensor needles): 978,392.9 dTons
Not official or deadly accurate but pretty darn close. Close enough that I don't think it makes any signifigant difference one way or another.
Hope that helps.
Crow
- Edited for stupidity - :/ Maya's volume calculator is apparently flaky so I rechecked in good ol' Studio MAX. 16 million dTons, my arse!
I built an actual size - 725.42 Metres (excluding sensor needle) block model of the liberator from this picture:
I was unable to find any plans so this was the most side-on image I could find.
This is the model:
The various sections break down like this (using 1 dTon = 13.5 cubic metres):
Propulsion Sphere: 2,643,598.5 cubic metres - 195,822.1 dTons
Main Body (excluding needle): 3,009,118.25 cubic metres - 222,897.6 dTons
Nacelle: 2,437,932.75 cubic metres - 180,587.6 dTons
x3 = 541,762.8 dTons
Nacelle Arms: 80,596.71 cubic metres - 5,970.1 dTons
x3 = 17,910.4
For a grand total of (not including sensor needles): 978,392.9 dTons
Not official or deadly accurate but pretty darn close. Close enough that I don't think it makes any signifigant difference one way or another.
Hope that helps.
Crow
- Edited for stupidity - :/ Maya's volume calculator is apparently flaky so I rechecked in good ol' Studio MAX. 16 million dTons, my arse!
EDG said:
Yep - I think it is heavily influenced by the Enterprise. Strange that they are both such weird shapes and yet they 'work' somehow.
I seem to remember an episode where the Liberator encountered ships that were just the 'pod' part, flying separately (it's been a loooog time, so I could be wrong). I always thought that the 'pods' were separate ships that could be detached and flown separately. That could be an answer to the 3 spinal mount question - treat the Lib as 4 separate ships, docked together.
Vile
Banded Mongoose
Hey, Scarecrow, thanks for your help! That really puts the Liberator in perspective (pun intended) - almost a million tons! Ha, we laugh at, no, we break wind in the general direction your puny Tigresses!
That's it, the Liberator is getting three spinal mounts ... :twisted:
Gee4orce, you're thinking of the interceptors sent after the Liberator by its builders, the System in the final season 1 episode "Redemption". They were basically a combination of a weapons pod with a propulsion sphere (red instead of the Liberator green), so it's unlikely that the pods could fly by themselves. But they were still huge - over 380,000 tons by Scarecrow's model. :shock:
That's it, the Liberator is getting three spinal mounts ... :twisted:
Gee4orce, you're thinking of the interceptors sent after the Liberator by its builders, the System in the final season 1 episode "Redemption". They were basically a combination of a weapons pod with a propulsion sphere (red instead of the Liberator green), so it's unlikely that the pods could fly by themselves. But they were still huge - over 380,000 tons by Scarecrow's model. :shock:
So go with three 100 dton bays. If you want them firing forward only, put them in a fixed mount. Either way, 9D6 damage per bay is very, very scary..especially if the bay is designed as "Very High Yield".Shiloh said:That, and the rules don't really allow for three spinal mounts...
They rip through anything, believe me. Been there, done that, got the coffin.
Traveller-61
Mongoose
Vile said:
Just to a bit of pedant the episode Redemption was no1 of Season 2 (Orac was the final one of the first season and led directly into Redemption). Also I think that that those ships were referred to as Spaceworld Pursuit Ships.
DW
Vile
Banded Mongoose
I'm pretty happy with the 700-odd metre length - I've seen it worked out many times in many different ways, and it always comes out somewhere around there. It really does put into perspective how huge this ship is.
Ah, yes, pedant away Traveller-61! My mistake I always get confused by that one since the BBC did a re-run of season 1 on the 25th (?) anniversary. There was then a letter-writing campaign by rabid fans (including yours truly) who wanted the cliffhanger ending followed by its resolution. The Beeb relented and showed us episode 1 of season 2!
Ah, yes, pedant away Traveller-61! My mistake I always get confused by that one since the BBC did a re-run of season 1 on the 25th (?) anniversary. There was then a letter-writing campaign by rabid fans (including yours truly) who wanted the cliffhanger ending followed by its resolution. The Beeb relented and showed us episode 1 of season 2!
Admiral Duck Sauce makes several B7 ships (in two scales) http://www.shapeways.com/shops/admiralducksauce
Someone else who estimated Liberator's size came up with 230m http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7/Essays/LibSize.html
Assuming this guy is correct, the scales are 1:2300 and 1:4600.
Starship Dimensions is still up and running, but no B7 ships http://www.merzo.net/index.html
Someone else who estimated Liberator's size came up with 230m http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7/Essays/LibSize.html
Assuming this guy is correct, the scales are 1:2300 and 1:4600.
Starship Dimensions is still up and running, but no B7 ships http://www.merzo.net/index.html