Big announcement today?
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broken serenity
Mongoose
How does this effect the Cloclwork and Chivalry line? and will we eventually see blood magic and other completed but not published books released under the new line(obviously gloranthan stuff probably wont make the cut)?
broken serenity said:
We were speaking to Cubicle 7 about this on Sunday - we see no reason for it to effect the line at all.
lastbesthope
Mongoose
msprange said:
Well this sounds a lot more hopeful than the promised compatibility between B5 1E and B5 2E
LBH
Nickbergquist
Mongoose
Ultor said:
Well, ideally they would "genricize" them, including the relevant details but maybe filing off the Gloranthan serial #s. Slaarge become lizard men, Aldryani become "nature elves" or something (sorry, not up on my Gloranthan specific entities at the moment), Mostali become stone dwarves...etc.? More than a few of these Gloranthan beings have appeared in generic form already in various BRP sourcebooks, anyway.
msprange said:8.5 x 5.5.
It is simply to make it more affordable (looking to retail at £9.99). A class-leading system at that price - who can resist?And yes, the supplements will follow the same format.
Ahhh, the Savage Worlds approach. The low cost of a complete rules set has often been noted as part of the success of the Savage World Explorer's Edition. I've just measured my copy and it's 9" x 6.5".
msprange said:K Peterson said:
8.5 x 5.5.
It is simply to make it more affordable (looking to retail at £9.99). A class-leading system at that price - who can resist?
Is the layout going to be all new with a reasonable size type for the body text? I find the size of text to be a tad too small in the Traveller LBBs.
danskmacabre
Mongoose
What a very strange turnout.
I assume the Name "Runequest" belongs to another company or something?
So in the core MRQ2 rules when it gets converted to "Wayfarer" it was mentioned Gloranthan references will be removed.
Does this mean in the monster section that Gloranthan Races like their version of Elves, Broo and the Gloranthan Dwarves will be changed to more generic player races?
Will Wayfarer replace the missing Gloranthan content with other generic content?
If so what happens to those of us who have now bought MRQ2 (and were intending to buy more) for non-Gloranthan stuff Like Elric?
I know you have said "MRQ2 will be 100% compatible" but will the new Wayfarer core book have content that the MRQ2 core book DOESN'T.
Also will the new Wayfarer ELRIC book have content that the MRQ2 version of Elric DOESN'T?
I assume the Name "Runequest" belongs to another company or something?
So in the core MRQ2 rules when it gets converted to "Wayfarer" it was mentioned Gloranthan references will be removed.
Does this mean in the monster section that Gloranthan Races like their version of Elves, Broo and the Gloranthan Dwarves will be changed to more generic player races?
Will Wayfarer replace the missing Gloranthan content with other generic content?
If so what happens to those of us who have now bought MRQ2 (and were intending to buy more) for non-Gloranthan stuff Like Elric?
I know you have said "MRQ2 will be 100% compatible" but will the new Wayfarer core book have content that the MRQ2 core book DOESN'T.
Also will the new Wayfarer ELRIC book have content that the MRQ2 version of Elric DOESN'T?
danskmacabre said:
Yes, Runequest as a name/brand was licensed as well as Glorantha.
I guess from a business pov a name change is wise. Too many people think that Runequest == Glorantha. Also a name change and format change may entice people to take a look, whereas they would continue to dismiss something called Runequest.
danskmacabre
Mongoose
andyl said:
OK well I don't really care much about Glorantha, which I found a bit unapproachable anyway.
But am concerned about how this affects all the Erlic stuff I have now.
Also the official statement
Sounds like they're going to put less resource into RQ (soon to be Wayfarer)
I posted some of this elsewhere, but I will post it here too.
As a Glorantha fan, I can see why the Glorantha relationship must go. No access to the 3rd age, I would think, is a stinger. Additionally, the RQ name and Glorantha are, quite simply, inextricable. This leaves Mongoose at a disadvantage in making money as a publishing house, which, as a business, can not be ignored to simply "put out good stuff."
Having said that:
Collectively, ou guys have created one helluva system- arguably the best system available on the current market.
I can only imagine what situation might lead to all parties walking away from that type of achievement. It may not be David Chappelle walking away from the Chappelle show, but it has a similar feel...without the millions of dollars
My best to all of you, and here is my wish in all of this:
That whatever fences have been damaged can be mended, and the original authors might both be able to return to writing material for this system, a damn fine one, IMHO.
M. Sprange take note. Wayfarer- or whatever the incarnation- get contributions from these guys if at all possible. Even if on a book by book basis. They are a lot of the identity and creative engine around this line.
*gets off soap box*
As a Glorantha fan, I can see why the Glorantha relationship must go. No access to the 3rd age, I would think, is a stinger. Additionally, the RQ name and Glorantha are, quite simply, inextricable. This leaves Mongoose at a disadvantage in making money as a publishing house, which, as a business, can not be ignored to simply "put out good stuff."
Having said that:
Collectively, ou guys have created one helluva system- arguably the best system available on the current market.
I can only imagine what situation might lead to all parties walking away from that type of achievement. It may not be David Chappelle walking away from the Chappelle show, but it has a similar feel...without the millions of dollars
My best to all of you, and here is my wish in all of this:
That whatever fences have been damaged can be mended, and the original authors might both be able to return to writing material for this system, a damn fine one, IMHO.
M. Sprange take note. Wayfarer- or whatever the incarnation- get contributions from these guys if at all possible. Even if on a book by book basis. They are a lot of the identity and creative engine around this line.
*gets off soap box*
Lots of surprising news today, must say I didn't see any of this coming, but then I am new here...
Anyhow, as I am not interested in Glorantha, the news actually seem in a way welcome, as this will mean Deus Vult and other campaign materials might get new stuff. However, I can feel the pain of Glorantha fans.
Some time ago I experinced similar cataclysmic RPG announcement, when FFG closed WFRP v2 and announced a completely new (and expensive) system. The situation was in fact reversed to RQII, there the setting remained the same, but the system was completely new and (of course) incompatible with the old one. I was pretty mad then, I can tell you. And I haven't bought a single FFG product since, and we continue playing the old game. That will show 'em! :roll:
Anyhow, as I am not interested in Glorantha, the news actually seem in a way welcome, as this will mean Deus Vult and other campaign materials might get new stuff. However, I can feel the pain of Glorantha fans.
Some time ago I experinced similar cataclysmic RPG announcement, when FFG closed WFRP v2 and announced a completely new (and expensive) system. The situation was in fact reversed to RQII, there the setting remained the same, but the system was completely new and (of course) incompatible with the old one. I was pretty mad then, I can tell you. And I haven't bought a single FFG product since, and we continue playing the old game. That will show 'em! :roll:
languagegeek
Mongoose
Things I wonder about...
1) Who will be doing the writing of the new material? Without Loz and Pete, it will be extremely tough to keep up with the quality of the RQII system as it stands today. New writers may want to take the system in their own directions, so I wonder if they'll have the same level of genius. I sincerely wish Mongoose the best in finding writers of such a high calibre. Honestly, Pete and Loz have put together arguably the greatest fantasy RPG system in existence... statues should be built in their honour
2) Will the new books under wayfarer (or whatever) be re-releases of the RQII books? I know we've been told that everything is 100% compatible, but will my future players be able to get their hands on their own Arms & Equipment or other core books?
3) Will there be a pdf available that gives me access to the material in the wayfarer versions of books that is not in my RQII version?
I mean I guess it's just a name change and the loss of one of the settings. And it might just be what's needed to jump start the ruleset which seems to be universally loved. Maybe if Mongoose is going to focus more on Traveller and minis, the wayfarer releases will be more spaced out with enough time to assure the highest quality in form and function. I remain ever the optimist, though whatever happens at least I've got enough RQII to last me a long long time.
1) Who will be doing the writing of the new material? Without Loz and Pete, it will be extremely tough to keep up with the quality of the RQII system as it stands today. New writers may want to take the system in their own directions, so I wonder if they'll have the same level of genius. I sincerely wish Mongoose the best in finding writers of such a high calibre. Honestly, Pete and Loz have put together arguably the greatest fantasy RPG system in existence... statues should be built in their honour
2) Will the new books under wayfarer (or whatever) be re-releases of the RQII books? I know we've been told that everything is 100% compatible, but will my future players be able to get their hands on their own Arms & Equipment or other core books?
3) Will there be a pdf available that gives me access to the material in the wayfarer versions of books that is not in my RQII version?
I mean I guess it's just a name change and the loss of one of the settings. And it might just be what's needed to jump start the ruleset which seems to be universally loved. Maybe if Mongoose is going to focus more on Traveller and minis, the wayfarer releases will be more spaced out with enough time to assure the highest quality in form and function. I remain ever the optimist, though whatever happens at least I've got enough RQII to last me a long long time.
Jujitsudave
Mongoose
Is it possible to have Conan and Lone Wolf designed for Wayfarer?
Well this is all tough news to wake up to! I was blown away with the idea that Mongoose was dropping RQ2, considering how I've only recently started purchasing it. I felt ripped off for some reason, but getting over that now.
After thinking about it all however, I think that the 'Wayfarer' generic fantasy concept may not be such a bad idea, especially if some pre-existing properties are to be published with it, such as Deus Vult, Wraithcon, Elric, Vikings etc. If the rules are similar, then it's all good.
Considering I'm a RQ fan from the '80s I must say the system leaving Glorantha behind feels a bit wrong, but I guess Moon Design has now gained some great Gloranthan writers, so Glorantha will certainly live on. I think I'll be watching Moon Design closely over the next few months, they will have some great Gloranthan content coming out. One could only hope that Moon Design cuts a deal with Chaosium so the BRP system can be used alongside HQ, that's really want us old RQ Glorantha fans want, more 3rd Age stuff to hoard!
The fact that Lawrence Whitaker and Pete Nash no longer write for Mongoose is a concern, they have been very good for this system. But the idea of Mongoose producing 'Wayfarer' isn't such a bad idea after all, I'll continue to buy Deus Vult and other settings if it's compatible. I must say I like the name 'Wayfarer', it is a little edgy like 'Pathfinder', it's a great name for a set of fantasy rpg rules.
I'm certainly support Mongoose if 'Wayfarer' is essientially the MRQ2 rules, but the rpg market struggles as it is, and another title on the shelves may not bring in newcomers - only time will tell if this has made a good decision or not.
We live in interesting times...
After thinking about it all however, I think that the 'Wayfarer' generic fantasy concept may not be such a bad idea, especially if some pre-existing properties are to be published with it, such as Deus Vult, Wraithcon, Elric, Vikings etc. If the rules are similar, then it's all good.
Considering I'm a RQ fan from the '80s I must say the system leaving Glorantha behind feels a bit wrong, but I guess Moon Design has now gained some great Gloranthan writers, so Glorantha will certainly live on. I think I'll be watching Moon Design closely over the next few months, they will have some great Gloranthan content coming out. One could only hope that Moon Design cuts a deal with Chaosium so the BRP system can be used alongside HQ, that's really want us old RQ Glorantha fans want, more 3rd Age stuff to hoard!
The fact that Lawrence Whitaker and Pete Nash no longer write for Mongoose is a concern, they have been very good for this system. But the idea of Mongoose producing 'Wayfarer' isn't such a bad idea after all, I'll continue to buy Deus Vult and other settings if it's compatible. I must say I like the name 'Wayfarer', it is a little edgy like 'Pathfinder', it's a great name for a set of fantasy rpg rules.
I'm certainly support Mongoose if 'Wayfarer' is essientially the MRQ2 rules, but the rpg market struggles as it is, and another title on the shelves may not bring in newcomers - only time will tell if this has made a good decision or not.
We live in interesting times...
