B5 telepathy and targeting beyond close range
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crizh said:
I don't have the Mibari book...and the one I thumbed through I did not see that. So Mibari can have P15 Telepaths :?:
I wonder if a Mibari Telepath that is a P15 would lose rating by becoming a Vorlon Servant Carrier and become a P12 :?: :twisted:
That is why I was hoping that a Vorlon Servant would have their Psi Rating added to, not raised to a certain level. Kind of like what they did for the Psi Corps experiment, just adds to the exisiting Psi Rating.
Well, the Minbari P15 comes from use of certain bonuses that add to a characters base P rating.
If the Vorlon Servant PrC raises that base rating I don't see why the bonuses in question would not add to this new base......
(I do hope Perturbatio isn't drinking something when he reads that idea....)
If the Vorlon Servant PrC raises that base rating I don't see why the bonuses in question would not add to this new base......
(I do hope Perturbatio isn't drinking something when he reads that idea....)
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It is almost dry...
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frobisher said:Given that Vorlons are rated as P15, no dice baby, no way are you getting past P15
Hmmmm.....I think Jason Ironheart would disagree with you on that point.... :twisted:
I still think the Vorlons are underrated, same for Lorin. He connected Sheridan, Delan (sp) and the rest of the Fleet Telepathically (Tens of Thousands of sentients - since just the Earth Force ships had 1,000 personal and there were thousands of ships), the Vorlons and the Shadows.
That is some power curve if you graph it out. Of course someone could argue that Lorin was billions of years and was an Epic Telepath, so he was probbly 50,000th level so he could still reach most of the fleet with -2 per extra target.....
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But seeing as he's not a result of Vorlon enhancements, then he's no relevant to the discussion...
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But, Lorien can do pretty much what he wants to, regardless of what any one section of rules may say. He can bitchslap Ironheart around the block if he wants to even.
The only reason the Vorlons seem "underarted" is due to the (unfortunate and inadvertant) standard d20 Munchkinism that seems to have infected the alien telepaths. A P13 should be head and shoulders better than a P12, and a P14 should be again that step at least above a P13.
And I dispare that you can actually generate a modern era Narn teep :roll:
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You can? how?
The main rules specifically state
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so unless a GM is fiddling around with things, there is not way a player can have a Narn teep.
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Page 161 of the Narn Regime Fact Book, "Harrowed Heritage" General Feat.
Basically, the only disadvantage the Narn teep gets is that they can't buy telepathic feats with the normal feat slots they get every three levels, but they can freely take the Telepath character class.
Except that should be the Blip class (which we don't have yet) as they would be untrained... There's a long list of the abuses that this would allow (answers on a postcard...). Certainly, I'd never allow one to exist in my campaign (actually, there's quite a list of classes, prestige classes and racial feats that are no go as far as I'm concerned
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Ahhh...
I don't have the Narn Regime book, but yes, I would never allow that in my game either. I *might* consider having one modified by the Vorlon, but that would be highly unlikely since 'they are a dying race'.
I don't have the Narn Regime book, but yes, I would never allow that in my game either. I *might* consider having one modified by the Vorlon, but that would be highly unlikely since 'they are a dying race'.
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I would as well.
A list would be great (maybe a web based Index since I hear rumor there is not an Index for the book) :?:
There have been so few Web teasers...I miss those
A list would be great (maybe a web based Index since I hear rumor there is not an Index for the book) :?:
There have been so few Web teasers...I miss those
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I too miss those web teasers
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frobisher said:crizh said:
Given that Vorlons are rated as P15, no dice baby, no way are you getting past P15
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He is relevant to the discussion since you said that there is no way of getting past P15. The main question had to do with boosting the P-rating, not so much Who does it. As a note in the Made for Mongoose Mimbari history, it made it sound like the Vorlons actually made them even more powerful than they were. Power corrupts and they fell, and the Vorlons never quite made anyone that powerful again...or did they in Lyta?
Like you have said, the rules don't make a P12 stand out that much above a P11. Just seems like it adds 5 more feet to close range, etc. My character is a strong P11 when he awakened, he should be able through training and experience to work up to a P12 and be a Psi Cop according to JMS.
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Of course, this all completely ignores my original question which no-one has been able to resolve.
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Perturbatio said:
The original question:
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They would have to use Locate Mind first I suppose is one way, which thankfully is a P6 level ability and every ability that is beyond LOS needs P6+ to use.
Another option is to use the ability blind...
As long as your Telepath makes the DC roll for the ability that they are attempting to use, are in Range, and the vict...er... opponent misses their saving throw, the Telepath is successful. Which means that someone really powerful that is a P12 at 1st level can have their Telepathic abilities overcome realitivly easy compaired to a P5 at 20th level. (messed up I know)
It is too bad that there are so many sad people that must inflate their egos, instead of answering questions (which would do more for their self-confidence than chest beating). Hope this answers your question. I know that it brings up more questions.[/b]
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Barbara said:
I bought the Minbari Source book and I don't see anything that the Grand Telepaths are really able to increase their Psi Rating. Did I miss it?
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