AT-43 minis pictures.
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Stratos said:
Check out the pics about mid-way down the page. There's 3 pics of a White Stars soldier...pre-painted, touched up with Rackham paints and a pre-painted mini with white basecoat applied.
They may come pre-painted (for shlups like me), but they can be repainted by hobby types like you. Win-win, in my book.
http://www.at-43.com/index.php?lg=EN
And, heck yeah...I'm gonna make you and BillyC play! ;-)
Jeff
Looking at the At website, the pictures of the figs look great, new details and light/sade on the bad guys etc, BUT...
When you look at the contents of the box set, and look at the true prepainted job they have done, its no way as good at BF evo.......
Great shame, they are showing all these mins on the website which is a pre painted wargame, and all the pics are touched up..!!!!!
Shame on them, also the rules are not that hot, but easy to use thet figs with Sst evo....
Alan
When you look at the contents of the box set, and look at the true prepainted job they have done, its no way as good at BF evo.......
Great shame, they are showing all these mins on the website which is a pre painted wargame, and all the pics are touched up..!!!!!
Shame on them, also the rules are not that hot, but easy to use thet figs with Sst evo....
Alan
soulman said:
While I agree that it is LAME that they are featuring their touched-up pix as actual product how can you be so sure Mongoose isn't doing the same? How many of us have actually seen the actual product line for SST Evo and not just production samples/pix of Battlefield Evo. minis?
Stratos said:
Geez. I think you guys are being a bit hard on Rackham.
First off, they've shown many pics of "out of the box" product in addition to the studio retouched stuff. We've been given a pretty clear idea of what the final product looks like. Sure, it's not as pretty as the studio stuff, but did anyone really expect it to be?
Secondly, it's hardly a practice unique to them. It's pretty standard practice in the toy industry to release pictures (to the press or for product solicitation) of prototypes rather than actual production pieces. This is done usually due to the lead time for the press and production pieces aren't available yet.
Heck, it's standard practice for Hasbro to release pretty heavily re-touched photos of their products these days for Star Wars and their upcoming Marvel products.
Regarding the rules...they seem fine to me. Plus, they are just starter rules. There's a full hardcover rulebook coming out early next year.
I'm really looking forward to having all these great pre-painted gaming options over the next six months or so. It's a GREAT time to be a gamer!
Jeff
dyssnowman
Mongoose
Jeff Cope said:
Jeff, this is the Mongoose Publishing Forum. Let's be realistic here; did you think that people would be sitting hear singing the praises of another company?
If anything, the lack of control the Mongoose shows over its own forum is one thing that has always bugged me. I know for a fact that on other game company forums, if you start to discuss another company or their game, the thread is shut down. Period. The forum is to discuss the company's products not the competitors.
Hi snowman, maybe we should have a thread on other game companys as a extra on this site...
Don`t worry as for At43, its only some of the minis we like to use with SST EVO, as its a great system for any future warfare.
I think it take 10 mins to turn At43 stats into SST, and play better...!!!!
Don`t worry as for At43, its only some of the minis we like to use with SST EVO, as its a great system for any future warfare.
I think it take 10 mins to turn At43 stats into SST, and play better...!!!!
i think it shows maturity on mongooses behalf that we are allowed to discus this subject.
for one thing it gives mongoose a heads up on what there players think of the competition out there nd what our views and opinions are on different companies.
if you notice we dont have long winded conversations on warmachine, or hordes !!!!!! this probably shows mongoose there in a different market point than such games.
for one thing it gives mongoose a heads up on what there players think of the competition out there nd what our views and opinions are on different companies.
if you notice we dont have long winded conversations on warmachine, or hordes !!!!!! this probably shows mongoose there in a different market point than such games.
dyssnowman
Mongoose
If it wasn't for the threads that I have seen degenerate into total flame-wars, I would agree. I can think of a few discussions of GW games that quickly turned nasty, plus one about women in the military. Most if not all of these were finally locked by Mongoose but only after the hostilities had been going on for more than a week.
And while it could be said that it gives Mongoose a heads up of what players think of their game compared to others, it could potentially be damaging as well. A new player comes here looking for info on SST, sees all this stuff on AT-43, and thinks "Well hey, here is a game with great looking minis (since they are all studio paint jobs) that will be out in a month, while SST won't be around of half a year. I think I'll got check them out instead."
As for discussions of Warmachine and Hordes, those aren't really relevant. Mongoose does not make any games similar to either of those, so it wouldn't really matter if there was a long discussion about them.
Maybe it's just me, but this has long been one of the things that really bothers me about this forum.
And while it could be said that it gives Mongoose a heads up of what players think of their game compared to others, it could potentially be damaging as well. A new player comes here looking for info on SST, sees all this stuff on AT-43, and thinks "Well hey, here is a game with great looking minis (since they are all studio paint jobs) that will be out in a month, while SST won't be around of half a year. I think I'll got check them out instead."
As for discussions of Warmachine and Hordes, those aren't really relevant. Mongoose does not make any games similar to either of those, so it wouldn't really matter if there was a long discussion about them.
Maybe it's just me, but this has long been one of the things that really bothers me about this forum.
If Mongoose were worried about it they could easily shut down or remove this thread. Apparently they aren't
Whether or not I get AT-43 next month won't have any impact or whether or not I get SST Evo six months from now. I will probably buy both and Battlefield Evo as well.
Whether or not I get AT-43 next month won't have any impact or whether or not I get SST Evo six months from now. I will probably buy both and Battlefield Evo as well.
and by then mongoose will have some ideas on the best way to pack and advertise a prepainted game system from what RAKAM have done.JoseDominguez
Mongoose
dyssnowman said:
What? The mongoose forum is the most welcoming, pleasant forum I've ever visited.... there have been a couple of serious arguments, but that's it. The fact that you are able to mention other games without being shutdown is part of this, there's no point trying to flamebait by mentioning other compainies as it just gets discussed, would you prefer a mongoose fanboy website?
I'd like to think MG attracts a more mature audience (and I don't mean older players, just more mature).
And AT-43 is directly relevant to evo, it's the only other product that's really comparable at the moment. I'll be getting both, AT-43 because my group is looking for new games to play, but we don't have the time to paint full armies, and evo because 1) They do look pretty good 2) we are already sold on the SST mechanics.
JoseDominguez
Mongoose
It's a direct comparison between two 'pre-paint' but non collectible games one of which is SST. Can't see where it's more relevant.
JoseDominguez
Mongoose
My main concern about AT-43 is the lack of info.... nothing really listed as 'on it's way'. I'm going to get it, but if I could only afford one pre-painted mini wargame , the one with a starter box and nothing else in the release schedule would be less attractive than Evo.
