Well Ill try not to drag this too far off topic but:
1) I never said 'learn to play', my point is that a few fleets (especially the shadows and Minbari) used to have what most of the time amounted to an 'I win button'. In the Minbaris case alot of players just sailed forwards firiing and hoped their opponents failed stealth. In the shadows case you could maneuver completely at will and if the enemy got you in a bad way you could run away at full speed and STILL fire back at them and never had to wory remotely about ship facing to hit them at all.
2) I was merely suggesting that people should spend more time discussing different tactics and ways of using their fleets rather than just spending it all complaing 'this has been weakened and so my fleet sucks now because I have to use it differently'. I COULD go on for hours and suggest alternate tactics but this thread was not about that so avoided it (I will however start an Armageddon Minbari Tactics thread in a minute as Im more than happy to back this one up
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3) Im not the one who started the cinematic effects thing
I was in fact trying to get at the point that you cant really justify using cinematic effects to defend the turreted beam.
4) I actually agree with you about the shadow ship not being tough enough and your right as it stands youd have to be totally NUTS to take one over 2 hunters
. Personally I say give it a GEG rating, after all the Drakh ARE shadow thralls and shadow ships are frequently seen to 'abosorb' damage without any ill effect
GEG 3 or 4 would make it a VERY scary opponent indeed (maybe even a bit higher given how ancients take damage though Im catious of making it truly unkillable)
5) Lastly I know of course that you were being sarcastic but for the record Sun Tzu's advice is by and large very VERY vague and general almost TO the point of saying 'learn how to fight and use tactics'
And Napoleon invaded russia in which has to rank up there in terms of strategic genius right up with erm... when Hitler tried the same a century later..... so frankly its not really that sarcastic a comment at all
But I digress. The new shadow ship is a tad weak but I disagree strongly with anyone who says it should go back to turret. As for Minbari, other thread coming shortly, watch this space
. Seriously as it stands Id use hunters with Shadow ship models.