Agricultural Manufacturing Raw Materials from Asteroid Mining (or Fuel Refining?)

Terry Mixon

Emperor Mongoose
I was reading the article on the Krungha Processing Ark in JTAS #7 and it mentioned getting feedstock used to sustain the ark’s biospheres, supplementing recycled biomass to provide food to the ark’s population. The Ark also has 1,200 tons of Agricultural Manufacturing Plants. That seems to imply that the agricultural manufacturing plants can be supplied by asteroid mining. Is that correct?

High Guard has the mineral refinery output as 50% Common Ore, 30% Uncommon Ore, 15% Crystals and Gems and 5% Precious Metals. I house rule that one tenth of one percent off the precious metals is radioactives, but that's just me. A smelter allows Common Ores to be processed into Common Raw Materials and Uncommon Ores into Uncommon Raw Materials.

Does it also produce something that can become feedstock for the agricultural manufacturing plants? What percentage comes out of the refining? What's the output? Curious minds want to know.

I suspect the answer is that Type-C asteroids provide this, and they would likely only provide this, so the question becomes what percentage of a Type-C asteroid is converted and the ratio of the output. As this isn't covered in the rules, I'm hoping for some ideas on that from you fine folk.
 
My guess is that if scooping fuel from gas giants makes sense, then they are probably the most convenient source for CHON going.
I never thought about that being a source. If so, it's a byproduct of refining fuel. That begs the question what amount is generated per ton of refined fuel output. Thanks for the idea.
 
Plants need lot of different mixture of minerals for whatever their soil is. And we articially strength dossage of minerals and vitiams in food.
Iron is iron. Though for sophont consumption, you do need to put it in a thing of peanut butter.
 
Plants need lot of different mixture of minerals for whatever their soil is. And we articially strength dossage of minerals and vitiams in food.
Iron is iron. Though for sophont consumption, you do need to put it in a thing of peanut butter.
Understood. I'm just wanting to know what percentages and where they come from as they aren't mentioned in that context.
 
Understood. I'm just wanting to know what percentages and where they come from as they aren't mentioned in that context.
I dont think thats possible.
There over several hundred different sophonts, we get a mixture of obligate carnivores to lithovores and omnivores and opertunistic carnovores vegeterrians, and whatever the hell the intellgent wifi alien that accidently causes an apoc event in charter space.
We dont get a nutrional information card about the special sauce and pill aslan need to eat humaniti fuds.
 
I dont think thats possible.
There over several hundred different sophonts, we get a mixture of obligate carnivores to lithovores and omnivores and opertunistic carnovores vegeterrians, and whatever the hell the intellgent wifi alien that accidently causes an apoc event in charter space.
We dont get a nutrional information card about the special sauce and pill aslan need to eat humaniti fuds.
Again, understood. Yet the K'Kree seem to pull agricultural base materials from asteroid mining (I think) and I'm trying to get a grasp on it. My understanding matched yours. Maybe I'm wrong in reading the article.
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The asteroid processing facilities are the economic heart of a Krungha. The ark sails through the black looking for asteroids, assisted by a fleet of sensor and asteroid wrangling drones. When a promising rock is found that will fit in the tunnel (cross sec tion no more than 300 metres across), either wrangler drones will coax the asteroid in or the Krungha sets course and lets the asteroid float in until it can be captured, essentially evouring it. Every bit of the asteroid is used if possible. Even the slag is ground up and used to shore up failing parts of the Krungha’s structure or added to the radiation shielding. Ore is fed into smelters that transform them into raw materials. The results are then routed to manufacturing plants to make a wide variety of goods (including feedstock used to sustain the ark’s biospheres, supplementing recycled biomass to provide food to the ark’s population).
 
Yea, that how it would seem to be me too.
But I dont think its in the realm of possibility to include how much vitiam a and which vitiam b and how much riboflavin each rock has, ontop the sci fi ones for the sci fi antonomical needs.
Like that space rock break down, is in itself, not that useful or descriptive. It gives an idea what you can find in general, not what you can find in particular.
Feedstock for food needs minerals. Space rocks are made of minerals. In general space rocks have all the vitimian and minerals to keep the sophont body strong.
 
Yea, that how it would seem to be me too.
But I dont think its in the realm of possibility to include how much vitiam a and which vitiam b and how much riboflavin each rock has, ontop the sci fi ones for the sci fi antonomical needs.
Like that space rock break down, is in itself, not that useful or descriptive. It gives an idea what you can find in general, not what you can find in particular.
Feedstock for food needs minerals. Space rocks are made of minerals. In general space rocks have all the vitimian and minerals to keep the sophont body strong.
He is not looking for that. He is just looking for what percentage of that asteroid would be considered feedstock and what machine processes the asteroid into feedstock. Which, for the record, I haven't found anywhere either.)
 
I wonder if they're drawing on iceballs not just rockballs. Comets are a lot of water, but also "organic dust particles" dating back to the formation of a solar system. (Which raises some questions for me, but that's another topic.) Anyway, the water can feed hydroponics, and trace organics might work as fertilizer or soil or possibly 3D printing food if you go high tech enough.
 
Searching around on the interwebz has turned up that Type C asteroids have as much as a few percent of their makeup as organic materials. If we say 2%, then that gives some output numbers when they are refined. For simplicity's sake, I'd reduce the common ore by that amount and call it a day. Interested to hear what the Mongeese think.
 
Searching around on the interwebz has turned up that Type C asteroids have as much as a few percent of their makeup as organic materials. If we say 2%, then that gives some output numbers when they are refined. For simplicity's sake, I'd reduce the common ore by that amount and call it a day. Interested to hear what the Mongeese think.
This would work for Me for closing the hole in the manufacturing rules. Now I have to go and change all of My spreadsheets... :(

I should change My username to Janeway. lol
 
This would work for Me for closing the hole in the manufacturing rules. Now I have to go and change all of My spreadsheets... :(

I should change My username to Janeway. lol
Well, obviously. ;)

I just tweaked my personal spreadsheet to do this because it is a hole in the process, and this fills it. If the Mongeese come up with different numbers, I'll go with that. If they say no, I'll keep mine the way it is.
 
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Yep. You know me. Always trying to feed my fabricator. Can’t get coffee beans from rocks. ;)
Then just use the same break down?
Just because humaniti doesn't need to ingest rubies et ell doesnt mean hivers don't need it or the invisible parrot thing that the gweene have don't need it.
There nothing gained from a different break down.
 
Then just use the same break down?
Just because humaniti doesn't need to ingest rubies et ell doesnt mean hivers don't need it or the invisible parrot thing that the gweene have don't need it.
There nothing gained from a different break down.
Yes, there is. It allows me to have a percentage of the output of what goes into the refinery that I can use as raw materials for manufacturing agricultural goods. I could care less which species could use the raw materials naturally, but if it is there, it can be utilized as a step in the manufacturing process. I suspect you are focused on something else, but that is the long and short of what I was asking.
 
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