Adapt to 1/72nd...

[Dorb]

Just a thought, could you not adapt to 1/72nd scale minis? Of course after you have purchased some of the Mongoose sets. (then there is that painting thing ya got to do that we all love)

http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/PeriodModern.html

Like these for the US
http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.asp?manu=ESC&code=239

 

[Sgt. Brassones]

You know, that scale really has a lot going for it; dirt-cheap figs, nice sculpts, nearly every nation and weapon represented. The same thing keeps me from getting into 1/72 as it does 15mm; all the tons of 28mm terrain I have is totally useless and I'm not about to invest hundreds of dollars and dozens of hours making terrain. Not to mention I would have no room to store it.

 

[witteridderludo]

Ever since I heard about BF:E, I wasn't really comfortable about the scale. 28mm skirmish without tanks, OK. But when you start throwing in vehicles, it just looks off, like 40K. Tables are way too crowded, ranges seems waaay too short...
And then there's the price: a squad box will be in the shops for nearly 30€! Sorry, but count me out.

So I picked up a couple of boxes of Ceasar's (http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.asp?manu=CAE&code=H030 , http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.asp?manu=CAE&code=H031 ) and a Revell M1A2 for 29€. How to start a new game on a budget ;-)
And those figs are great, they really are worth their money (about double the price of Esci at 10€). No flash or mould lines, made out of a harder type of plastic, no real bendy weapons problem, great castings.

I'll have to colour code the stands of SAW gunners (because none are in the set) and grenadiers (bit small to see at this scale) but they're good to go otherwise.

I'm going to keep the rules as is, using smaller figs will give me that feel of open space that I'm missing with the BF:E figs.

And with the figs on the market I'll be able to fight in Chechnia, Afghanistan ( Brittania are doing a nice range of metal 20mm at the moment)...

 

[Secesh]

There's been a few threads like this about using BF:EVO rules but using 20mm, 15mm, 1/72 or whatever miniatures. Some clown even mentioned converting it to 54mm. Yeah you can do that. You could even convert it to 6mm and play it in a fruit bowl, that's your choice. My only question is who are you going to play against?

See, if I buy BF:EVO rules and miniatures, I'll be able to rock up to any game store and say "Hey, stupid, wanna get your ass kicked in BF:EVO?" or something like that and the twenty people standing around know what I'm talking about and at least half have an army. But if I buy some other company's miniatures and say "Hey, wanna play BF:EVO but with these cheapass figures I found on ebay in 17.5mm scale?" I don't think I'll get the same response. The chances of finding opponents with the same idea are pretty slim. Sure, I could make up two armies in my new "this is so cheap and fantastic" scale and lend one out to anyone who feels enough pity to play with me, but that would make me a sad ass. Being a gamer makes me sad enough, I don't want to become the hobby's public service spokesperson.

These are just my thoughts, good luck with your conversions if you go ahead with it.

 

[PilGrim]

We obviously live in a different world Sec.

I can walk into our club now with the PDF rules and have good chance of getting a game in 15mm or 20mm or 28 mm, but no-one has any Mongoose "official" figs. We do have some great models from Mongrel, TAG and DDD though in 28mm. If you walk into any of our local games clubs with your "cheapass" line you may find yourself laughed at for buying piss poor plastics at twice the price of good quality metals.

I can also not look like a dork when someone asks why there is no anti tank weapon in the US and Uk squads.

I like the 6mm idea though, as I could get both sides for a tenner! Actually I would go with 12mm \N guage \ 1:144 using Dragon \ Takara and minifigs. The Dragon 1:144 range has about every tank you need, is available pre painted, and are far better quality and detailed than the BF Evo tanks.

On the point of 6mm, well at least the scale would be a bit more realistic. At the moment if you assume (broadly) that a human is about 2 meters tall, then using the current scale, an AK shoots 40 meters, with the M16 managing 48 meters maximum.

Don't confuse brand loyalty with stupidity.

 

[Turtle]

Frankly, I just say play with your group. If no one has modern minis, buying Mongoose is a good way to go.

Iif you want to play in a different scale, go ahead. The rules are actually somewhat scale neutral.

I would recommend buying something from Mongoose just to support the game if you like it.

And about the whole no anti tank infantry quite yet, Matt has said there will be such options in the future, but right now for the sake of balance and keeping each force different certain factions are getting different units first. So for now the USMC has to rely on the M1A2, a very nasty tank, and the Shadow for AT ability, but in the future there will be infantry based AT, possibly even a squad add on.

 

[Secesh]

Pilgrim, if you can find opponents who want to play your converted games then go for it. For me, I find it easier to play whatever company is selling whatever rules as is and easier to find good opponents who think the same. I accept gaming is an expensive hobby and I'm fine with paying more for pre-painted miniatures though I'm not going begrudge anyone who wants to game on a budget. If you want to play BF:EVO with lumps of play-doh or even paper clips and your club is doing the same then knock yourself out.

 

[Dorb]

By all means buy the Moongoose minis.(I've got my money in hand waiting...)

Its just why we wait forever(seems like) to test out the rules and actually see how they work. Try some different units. I myself have been using some of the 100's of Star Wars minis to mess with what rules I have. You folks who have them have, no idea how hard it is to read this stuff day after day and not have any to purchase yet. (really feel bad for folks down under)Feel like a Crack Whore who cant get my hands on the good stuff and settle for the local waterdown stuff. Lol!

Which gives me thougths for another thread...

 

[Mr Evil]

i feel your pain DORB, we have the same problmes with wave 2 we have been hooked by wave 1 and now need a wave 2 fix, very frustrating.

that said you can look at our pics and use them as a guid to what to buy.

good luck on stuff being in your hands soon.

 

[Dorb]

Thanks Evil, just wanted pople to think I'm not Anti-Mongoose...just Anti-Waiting.

Hey Secesh, I think your Trooper on the Pooper was in my Empire (USMC) force I set up last nite. (check out pics from the battlefield poll)