A New Universe for ACTA's
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We have no rights -- zero, none, negative -- to use any of the characters who appeared in TOS. It is one of the "Thou Shalt Nots" of our boards. Posts get deleted promptly if there is any discussion of the characters.
We warn our users not to do this and for the most part -- well, all of the time, really -- they understand and they don't want us to get into trouble. There are ways around it. The "brash young captain" who nearly started a war with the Gorns is part of the lore. However, he doesn't have any other role in the SFU. Our gamers are pretty cool on how to work in a character without calling the character by name or making a Forbidden Character (or ship) part of the plot.
And as you explore the history of the SFU, you'll find fascinating characters to use. Phillip Kosnett, Deth O'Key, William S. Gerard, Ketrick, Kumerian, and even the famous Olivette Roche are part of the SFU. We just found two new planets in the Air Force tapes -- Texmex and Tafelland. You just need to explore what we have, not what we don't have.
Edit: Rambler, you're getting fast on the draw!
We warn our users not to do this and for the most part -- well, all of the time, really -- they understand and they don't want us to get into trouble. There are ways around it. The "brash young captain" who nearly started a war with the Gorns is part of the lore. However, he doesn't have any other role in the SFU. Our gamers are pretty cool on how to work in a character without calling the character by name or making a Forbidden Character (or ship) part of the plot.
And as you explore the history of the SFU, you'll find fascinating characters to use. Phillip Kosnett, Deth O'Key, William S. Gerard, Ketrick, Kumerian, and even the famous Olivette Roche are part of the SFU. We just found two new planets in the Air Force tapes -- Texmex and Tafelland. You just need to explore what we have, not what we don't have.
Edit: Rambler, you're getting fast on the draw!
Rick
Mongoose
Actually, Jean has raised a very serious point here - while we (myself very much included) have been using terms and characters not included in the SFU licence (which is what the new ACTA will be using) in a general discussion - when we get a section of the forum for it, we'll probably have to use similiar guidelines to the SFU boards, to avoid copyright infringements.
Honestly can't see myself wanting to mention that womanising idiot and his garbage scow full of misfits anyway, however there are 3 heroic klingon captains, lol!
Honestly can't see myself wanting to mention that womanising idiot and his garbage scow full of misfits anyway, however there are 3 heroic klingon captains, lol!
Jean said:
I do like the Gorilla Lieutenant - and I can see some fun rules about them being great in a boarding/ ground action but if they mutiny your ship is in serious problems
Right I see your issues - there were some minor ones under B5 - all the fan fiction got pulled for instance but certain things that were not allowed officially by the licence still happened to be created by fans ( Mirror universes for instance) and I guess we assumed that this would continue in ST.......
Do you have a posting wiht the do and don'ts. The "Thou Shalt nots?"
So far I have got:
No mention (by name ) of OS characters
No mention (by name) of the main ship - but is that only ship name you can't use - as most are derived (as that ship was) from real ships?
Most things (incidents, races etc) in the series you can sort of reference but not all - No "true" Mirror Universe?
Anything else?
How constrained are you about the periods of history you can use - can you do the early years of the Federation for instance as a pack? Or a future Federation as I see you have multiple galaxies now - which is cool
Oh and cool Romulan commander - does she have a name and history !
Stormrider
Mongoose
They sound like a very enterprising bunch of characters Burger, I wonder how many more we could check ov the list?
Da Boss, we don't have a lot of hard and fast rules. Basically, you cannot write about a ship, character, species, weapon, planet, etc. that we haven't already used. The famous ship is off limits. We have it in the list of ships that exist, but her adventures are so well documented, we don't see a need to explore them. (Besides, it is outside of our license! 
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So no scenarios, no fiction, and no RPGing may include the characters. The assorted comics, novels, movies, and later series are not in our license. So there's no bat'leth in our art or fiction, for example. Our Klingons and Subject Races have various blades, but not that particular one.
The Mirror Universe wasn't in the SFU; it cannot be used. We have played with a Reflection Universe, but that is one that SVC would need to run past the lawyers first prior to publication.
Burger, let's not go there. That's one of those "we could probably win, but the court costs would be too high" battles. Never start a battle you don't have to (or cannot) win. There are lots of people and ships in the SFU to write about.
The Kzintis are used with permission of Larry Niven, but they are not his Kzintis. Ours are bipedal tigers and if you ever thought that one of their females were not sapient, she'd disabuse you of that notion so fast that your head would be spinning after her "love tap." We never, ever abbreviate Kzintis as "Kzin" as that is not what our Tigermen are known as. Do they eat their foes? They certainly have that reputation and there are rumors of a specialty book titled "How to Serve Hydrans" and it isn't for those who "buttle." :shock:
For the Romulan, the artwork posted isn't ours and is under copyright, I suspect, so we'd probably remove the link were it on our board after verifying the information. SVC and I (as do most publishers) feel very strongly about copyright as we spend time each week quashing pirates of our books.
Does this help you on your questions?
)So no scenarios, no fiction, and no RPGing may include the characters. The assorted comics, novels, movies, and later series are not in our license. So there's no bat'leth in our art or fiction, for example. Our Klingons and Subject Races have various blades, but not that particular one.
The Mirror Universe wasn't in the SFU; it cannot be used. We have played with a Reflection Universe, but that is one that SVC would need to run past the lawyers first prior to publication.
Burger, let's not go there. That's one of those "we could probably win, but the court costs would be too high" battles. Never start a battle you don't have to (or cannot) win. There are lots of people and ships in the SFU to write about.
The Kzintis are used with permission of Larry Niven, but they are not his Kzintis. Ours are bipedal tigers and if you ever thought that one of their females were not sapient, she'd disabuse you of that notion so fast that your head would be spinning after her "love tap." We never, ever abbreviate Kzintis as "Kzin" as that is not what our Tigermen are known as. Do they eat their foes? They certainly have that reputation and there are rumors of a specialty book titled "How to Serve Hydrans" and it isn't for those who "buttle." :shock:
For the Romulan, the artwork posted isn't ours and is under copyright, I suspect, so we'd probably remove the link were it on our board after verifying the information. SVC and I (as do most publishers) feel very strongly about copyright as we spend time each week quashing pirates of our books.
Does this help you on your questions?
Just seen the 3D of the Fed CA (Heavy Cruiser for those non-SFB/FC players among us) on the Facebook page - damn, that looks GOOD... I'll definitely be buying one of those and the D7 and, well, all the others... even if I decide I don't like the rules...
I'll just have to get hold of a larger hexmap to use them on if the bases are bigger... (although, being resin, it should be possible to keep them the same size, I hope).
I'll just have to get hold of a larger hexmap to use them on if the bases are bigger... (although, being resin, it should be possible to keep them the same size, I hope).
Iron Domokun
Mongoose
Kzinti don't eat Hydrans, they are co-belligerents with the Hydrans against the Lyrans (another feline/humanoid species). Lyrans DO eat Hydrans. (I always think that somewhere in the "source tapes" there's a script for a Lyran episode of the Twilight Zone where the protagonist finds a copy of a book "How to serve Hydrans"... on translating it he comes to the horrifying conclusion "It's NOT a cookbook!!")
Rick
Mongoose
BFalcon said:Just seen the 3D of the Fed CA (Heavy Cruiser for those non-SFB/FC players among us) on the Facebook page - damn, that looks GOOD... I'll definitely be buying one of those and the D7 and, well, all the others... even if I decide I don't like the rules...
I'll just have to get hold of a larger hexmap to use them on if the bases are bigger... (although, being resin, it should be possible to keep them the same size, I hope).
Wouldn't happen to have a link, by any chance?
Understood - but if the models maintain that level of detail (and with resin, there's a very good chance they will), I'll be very happy and will likely get a few.
One question I thought of while looking at the ADB site again - will Mongoose or ADB arrange for appropriate-scaled decals to make these look their best when they come out? I know the Starline 2400 minis had decals by third party suppliers...
One question I thought of while looking at the ADB site again - will Mongoose or ADB arrange for appropriate-scaled decals to make these look their best when they come out? I know the Starline 2400 minis had decals by third party suppliers...
Da Boss, we don't have a lot of hard and fast rules. Basically, you cannot write about a ship, character, species, weapon, planet, etc. that we haven't already used. The famous ship is off limits. We have it in the list of ships that exist, but her adventures are so well documented, we don't see a need to explore them. (Besides, it is outside of our license! )So no scenarios, no fiction, and no RPGing may include the characters. The assorted comics, novels, movies, and later series are not in our license. So there's no bat'leth in our art or fiction, for example. Our Klingons and Subject Races have various blades, but not that particular one.
Thanks got it
The Mirror Universe wasn't in the SFU; it cannot be used.
Ahh a real shame
my fav part of Trek
We have played with a Reflection Universe, but that is one that SVC would need to run past the lawyers first prior to publication.
Yeah I saw some posts about it on your forum - did not seem to get very far, again shame really........?
The Kzintis are used with permission of Larry Niven, but they are not his Kzintis. Ours are bipedal tigers and if you ever thought that one of their females were not sapient, she'd disabuse you of that notion so fast that your head would be spinning after her "love tap."
Ah I did wonder about that - does anything else from the Larry Niven episode exist in SFU? I seem to recall precursor boxes or similar, I always had a soft spot for Puppeters?
For the Romulan, the artwork posted isn't ours and is under copyright, I suspect, so we'd probably remove the link were it on our board after verifying the information.
Ah damn - so are there any sexy / deadly Romulan captains of note detailed? If so linkage!
Is the Squire of Gothos(?) in SFU?
The only other bit was how restricted is SFU in terms of time period covered - can you do an early Star Fleet/ Vulcna/Andorian (if that term is used) fleet list / scenarios
)So no scenarios, no fiction, and no RPGing may include the characters. The assorted comics, novels, movies, and later series are not in our license. So there's no bat'leth in our art or fiction, for example. Our Klingons and Subject Races have various blades, but not that particular one.Thanks got it
The Mirror Universe wasn't in the SFU; it cannot be used.
Ahh a real shame
my fav part of TrekWe have played with a Reflection Universe, but that is one that SVC would need to run past the lawyers first prior to publication.
Yeah I saw some posts about it on your forum - did not seem to get very far, again shame really........?
The Kzintis are used with permission of Larry Niven, but they are not his Kzintis. Ours are bipedal tigers and if you ever thought that one of their females were not sapient, she'd disabuse you of that notion so fast that your head would be spinning after her "love tap."
Ah I did wonder about that - does anything else from the Larry Niven episode exist in SFU? I seem to recall precursor boxes or similar, I always had a soft spot for Puppeters?
For the Romulan, the artwork posted isn't ours and is under copyright, I suspect, so we'd probably remove the link were it on our board after verifying the information.
Ah damn - so are there any sexy / deadly Romulan captains of note detailed? If so linkage!
Is the Squire of Gothos(?) in SFU?
The only other bit was how restricted is SFU in terms of time period covered - can you do an early Star Fleet/ Vulcna/Andorian (if that term is used) fleet list / scenarios
Da Boss,
No other Larry Niven stuff. Not in our license.
Sexy Romulans? Ummmm...well you have to realize that my tastes may not be the same as yours! You might start with one of the Romulan sourcebooks and peruse that art. I know one of our writers was playing with the concept of a very deadly, very sexy Romulan spy/assassin.
No Squire of Gothos.
Early Years? That is an era that Steven Petrick is working to develop. So far there are three volumes of Early Years ships out. The simpler ships present tactical challenges that are uniquely theirs.
No other Larry Niven stuff. Not in our license.
Sexy Romulans? Ummmm...well you have to realize that my tastes may not be the same as yours! You might start with one of the Romulan sourcebooks and peruse that art.
I know one of our writers was playing with the concept of a very deadly, very sexy Romulan spy/assassin.No Squire of Gothos.
Early Years? That is an era that Steven Petrick is working to develop. So far there are three volumes of Early Years ships out. The simpler ships present tactical challenges that are uniquely theirs.
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