1e HG Spacecraft Options Structure/Hull Reinforced Hull p. 41 Round 2?

[snrdg121408]

Hello all,

Back on 01/18/16 I asked about the overlap of the Hull Size between 100 - 1,000 and 1,000 - 2,000 in the Reinforced Hull table on 1e HG p. 41.

The replies I received where:

1. The table has always been that way.
2. The 2e HG does ship design differently than 1e.
3. The 2e HG book will hopefully be released in May. (I'm hoping that is May of 2016)

Unfortunately, the original post is still hanging about without a clarification, since I do not have access to 2e HG beta.

Until I have 2e HG my solution for 1e Spacecraft Design, Spacecraft Options, Small Craft Design, and Capital Ship Design using the Reinforced Hull chart on p. 41 will be to create a spreadsheet table.

0 tons: 0
10 tons: Structure 1 Pt/5% and Hull 3 Pt/10%
100 tons: Structure 2 Pt/5% and Hull 5 Pt/10%
1,000 tons: Structure 4 Pt/5% and Hull 10 Pt/10%
3,000 tons: Structure 8 Pt/5% and Hull 20 Pt/10%
20,000+ tons: Structure 16 Pt/5% and Hull 40 Pt/10%

 

[AnotherDilbert]

My interpretation:

The simplified design systems, Core Book and Small Craft, work with standardised components. Hull and drives come in standardised sizes. Hulls are 10 dT or 200 dT, not 14 dT or 240 dT.

Only Capital Ships are free to choose any size they want for hulls, but they are still classified into hull sizes. A 2543 dT hull is classified as CA (up to 3000 dT) [table on p62].

So the table on p41 kind of makes sense. There are no hulls less than 10 dT. There are no hulls between 90 and 100 dT. Anything bigger than 2000 dT is classified as 3000 dT. The only strangeness is 1000 dT, I guess you get to choose which row to use. And 15000 dT ships can't use the table at all, oops.

So for a spreadsheet I would use:
<100 dT
<1000 dT
1000 - 2000 dT
>2000 dT
>10000 dT (or >15000 dT?)

This is of course creative interpretation, close to house ruling...

 

[snrdg121408]

Morning PDT AnotherDilbert,

My interpretation:

The simplified design systems, Core Book and Small Craft, work with standardised components. Hull and drives come in standardised sizes. Hulls are 10 dT or 200 dT, not 14 dT or 240 dT.

Only Capital Ships are free to choose any size they want for hulls, but they are still classified into hull sizes. A 2543 dT hull is classified as CA (up to 3000 dT) [table on p62].

So the table on p41 kind of makes sense. There are no hulls less than 10 dT. There are no hulls between 90 and 100 dT. Anything bigger than 2000 dT is classified as 3000 dT. The only strangeness is 1000 dT, I guess you get to choose which row to use. And 15000 dT ships can't use the table at all, oops.

So for a spreadsheet I would use:
<100 dT
<1000 dT
1000 - 2000 dT
>2000 dT
>10000 dT (or >15000 dT?)

This is of course creative interpretation, close to house ruling...

Thank you for the alternate solution and technically speaking everything anyone does to Mongoose Publishing's Traveller 1e is going to be house rules.

However, for my purposes I'm trying to stay within the published 1e rules as possible. In the case of the 1e HG Spacecraft Options for Reinforced Structure and Hull the chart on p. 41 has the overlap. I just had another way that may work a little closer to the way the table is set-up thanks to your reply.

1e HG Small Craft & 1e HG Spacecraft Options
10 - 90
100

1e CRB/MRB Spacecraft Design & 1e HG Spacecraft Options
100 - 1,000
1,001 - 2,000

1e HG Capital Ship& 1e HG Spacecraft Options
3,000 - 10,000
20,000+

I really regret not picking up the Traveller CRB/HG 2e Beta, but not paying attention has bit me more than once.