Women of the Traveller Universe
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lastbesthope
Mongoose
That so looks like a cross between Col Wilma Deering and Padme on Geonosis.
LBH
LBH
kafka said:I cannot help but wonder does this not have a place in the Original Traveller Universe...
It's a ridiculously impractical outfit. It's "sexy for the sake of it", and certainly wouldn't be used as a uniform (except maybe in a bedroom...).
And before people start accusing me of being a prude, I'm not. Far from it, in fact. I just think this sort of thing simply isn't appropriate for Traveller (Macho Women With Guns, maybe... but not Traveller).
What next, Barb Wire? :roll:
Ridiculously impractical? no.
A lot of youth are wearing spandex tops and trousers these days, and not just as workout wear.
The mismatch of only one sleeve? that's purely a fashion statement. But the rest of the outfit is as practical as most of the outfits worn by 13-19yo girls in Anchorage high schools.
A lot of youth are wearing spandex tops and trousers these days, and not just as workout wear.
The mismatch of only one sleeve? that's purely a fashion statement. But the rest of the outfit is as practical as most of the outfits worn by 13-19yo girls in Anchorage high schools.
This may well be true, but I would find it quite difficult to integrate an ad-AKAramis said:
venture for armed high school fashion girls into my campaign ... :?
Seriously, "practical" is hardly a word high school girls would think about
when choosing their dress, and a high school is not exactly an environ-
ment where one would need "practical" clothes.
Gruffty the Hiver
Banded Mongoose
...mutton dressed as lamb, eh?AKAramis said:
Dave Chase
Mongoose
Hmm, Obviously you all are not SW fans.
That outfit pictured is what it looked like after the fight.
It had long sleeves on both sides and a middle before the fight. Never figured out how the metal upper arm piece stayed when the sleeve was ripped off.
Dave Chase
That outfit pictured is what it looked like after the fight.
It had long sleeves on both sides and a middle before the fight. Never figured out how the metal upper arm piece stayed when the sleeve was ripped off.
Dave Chase
Jeff Hopper
Mongoose
kafka said:While Star Wars is not Traveller and Lucas was clearly inspired by the pulps of the 1930s & 1940s...I cannot help but wonder does this not have a place in the Original Traveller Universe...
The outfit doesn't look any more ridiculous than some clubwear I've seen.
The actress, however, would make a great template for a boss NPC come to think of it. Hmmm....
Vile
Banded Mongoose
I think the main difference between functional and fashionable clothing in my SF is that the future allows more clothing to be fashionable. You can have fashionable (and sexy, if that's fashionable on that world in that season) vacc suits and coveralls. They will, by necessity, 'cover all', but beyond that anything goes. I see people in every conceivable level of everyday wear, every day, and it ranges from conservative to risque. If anything, I only imagine that range expanding in the future. Depending on the size of your universe, clothing should be outrageous on occasion to remind players that they are not in the here and now. I try hard not to impose my personal views on the game worlds I create, because that would make them less than whole. I think, as referees, it is incumbent on us to present a fully-rounded future universe to our players, and from the clothing aspect that goes from tanktops to burqas and beyond.
Just remember, fashion may be stylish and/or practical, but the relationship is purely coincidental ...
Just remember, fashion may be stylish and/or practical, but the relationship is purely coincidental ...
captainjack23
Cosmic Mongoose
Jeff Hopper said:kafka said:While Star Wars is not Traveller and Lucas was clearly inspired by the pulps of the 1930s & 1940s...I cannot help but wonder does this not have a place in the Original Traveller Universe...
The outfit doesn't look any more ridiculous than some clubwear I've seen.
The actress, however, would make a great template for a boss NPC come to think of it. Hmmm....
I'm thinking y'all have forgotten both the Noble and the entertainer class.
Honestly, she's dressed weird for today, but at least shes....anatomically normal. And not overly exposed. Still, I would have a hard time with this being more than a very setting specific or one off.
there really are people with more fashion sense than sense in the world....this is the senator's daughter who you knew in college who you have to take along on an extraction....and if you are trying to bodyguard a high fashion noble, you dress accordingly.
And hot planets exist, too.
And really, how much less practical is this than the arms ripped off short tee and tight cammo pants in most gunfiction these days ? Especially in jungle settings ?
captainjack23
Cosmic Mongoose
rust said:Yep, this lady would be most welcome to my setting, especially because
apart from wearing a plausible outfit and looking good, she also gives the
impression that looking good is not her one and only talent.
well, yes, but....she also looks like she's wearing a combat rig -which isn't appropriate for most social settings - even in most off base settings - and traveller, I always thought, was more than just a skirmish game. So simply designing professional looking combat suits seems to be missing some of the flavor. Even casual fashion, nowadays, worldwide -can be pretty astonishing in its variety. So, as long as they look human, and not in basic cheescake/skin poses (defined as anatomically impossible or agonizing to hold) it's not that big a deal for me if people, even women people (
) depicted in traveller dress sexily or casually, or according to bizarre fashion dictated by popular, subgroup or professional culture (remember the eighties ? *SHUDDER*).I'm not suggesting that women in skimpy/sexy clothing won't exist in Traveller... I just question the need to put artwork of them in books.
If that sort of thing is there to sell more copies of the RPG then just say so. No amount of in-setting justification is going to justify that though - it'd be like saying "Traveller is a game of far future adventure, but we're just going to show you all the party people who dress to look hot!".
Like I said, if it's appropriate then fair enough. But I don't want to see pictures of big-boobed marines with perfect makeup and exposed midriffs in a combat situation.
If that sort of thing is there to sell more copies of the RPG then just say so. No amount of in-setting justification is going to justify that though - it'd be like saying "Traveller is a game of far future adventure, but we're just going to show you all the party people who dress to look hot!".
Like I said, if it's appropriate then fair enough. But I don't want to see pictures of big-boobed marines with perfect makeup and exposed midriffs in a combat situation.
captainjack23
Cosmic Mongoose
EDG said:
Well, in both cases we are on the same page, oddly enough. I think traveller has a pretty good run of showing the variety of dress (especially the Mongoose version), while still not focusing on ripped battle marines with Big Big...bulges and Bigger....guns. Just lets not just focus on BDU and gunporn, euither. Traveller is about more than just guns.
Avalanch Press was probably the most consistent offender that I recaal; and was quite upfront about putting it there to sell more copies. Good text, too, and interior art. No idea if they sold well- they are the only products I've ever felt I should brown bag to avoid looking like I was buying sleazy skin mags. "And Here is Your Pornography" my beloved FLGS employee loudly announced when I bought one particularly egregious example.
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