Ummm FN make the M416s... they're Belgian. Abrams don't have CHOBAM armour in this (at least it's deliberately not stated on the Card) and MGP decided at that stage not to use the Apaches because of their insane abilities. They don't spontaneously explode... they're all shot down due to friendly fire!
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becuase there is a level of backwards compatability, and they do intend the army to have launchers on their lynx due to their success in IRAQ, lynx wracked more kills than Apache have withing the british forces.
im quite passionate on the lynx from the little work ive done on them i spose, but saying launchers (of what type till the card comes out we do not know) as unrealist is daft.
future lynx will be equiped for tank hunting plain and simple. and against technolofical forces you need direct fore systems, to bring electronic counter measure reaction ranges down.
the test modles so far have not evan been fully built. they have tried systems out on hybrids and computer simulations and thats it realy, as yet not a single true future lynx has flown. they are currently using the current Lynx with bolt ons to try ideas out and computer simulations for a big part.
details on the future lynx are sketchy, combination of secrecy and nobody ahs all the answers yet.
why are you so against a weapon sytem being on the future lynx wich efectivly already exists for use on the current lynx ?
im quite passionate on the lynx from the little work ive done on them i spose, but saying launchers (of what type till the card comes out we do not know) as unrealist is daft.
future lynx will be equiped for tank hunting plain and simple. and against technolofical forces you need direct fore systems, to bring electronic counter measure reaction ranges down.
the test modles so far have not evan been fully built. they have tried systems out on hybrids and computer simulations and thats it realy, as yet not a single true future lynx has flown. they are currently using the current Lynx with bolt ons to try ideas out and computer simulations for a big part.
details on the future lynx are sketchy, combination of secrecy and nobody ahs all the answers yet.
why are you so against a weapon sytem being on the future lynx wich efectivly already exists for use on the current lynx ?
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Gibbs said:
Abrams definitely do have CHOBHAM whether the card says so or not! :lol:
but Apaches are being added again, that was a silly idea that they are so much better than a Tiger
emperorpenguin said:
You could justify it simply as reversed policy around 2010 due to say open hostilities between EU and USA(and with that need for more anti-tank potential to counter M1A2 Abrams of USA). Or something. Adding missile pods to Lynx would probably not take that many years and if something is cancelled it can also be renewed...Nothing is irreversible.
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Mr Evil said:
err Evil it's stated on the very website YOU posted! The army have NO intention of putting launchers on the Future Lynx, I have provided many links as proof I am yet to see you provide even one
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Again where is your evidence as this runs contrary to the Army, Augusta Westland and every tech page you can find!
because I am against using a 1980s helicopter which will no longer be in service! You have effectively given Future Lynx the role of the current Lynx without checking as far as I can tell
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tneva82 said:
and so the game goes away from
into fantasy
you can change just about anything based on that. FIST for example uses a lot of American tech
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Mongoose
Gibbs said:
Tiger is a damn good helicopter, I wanted the Army to choose it over Apache
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Mongoose
tneva82 said:
I don't play the Mongoose background, I bought into this game to play Modern day combat with near future forces of 2010-2015
politics can change overnight though but military plans don't
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Mongoose
Gibbs said:
hmm ok but the Barrett is American......
its also hard to see that their is currently talks of scrapping the APAChe based on its performance, but it doese exist.
if the future lynx gets of the ground and the army do a contract for them then your see, lets just say the army has made requests, as a provision for winning a contract it must have the ability to carry anti tank support.
as civys we dont know every thing thats going on, but if the contract comes up the future lynx would have to have the ability to be modular to compete with foreign imports for the contract.
but on the real subject (ie wargaming), isnt having a heli with pods more fun than not having the pods, and if it bothers you so much dont use them..simple.
(back on to the parrele world we live in) not all Navy copters have racks as not all army ones will do, same goese the other way for both some will some wont.
if navy can shoot rockets the you can bet the army will want to as well lol.
either way game is more important to me, i wanna have fun and blow up enemy tanks from the air, real or unreal ? well why do i have more brit casualties in a game than we suffer in a month in real world ? thing will never all add up, and the fun with future units is you can have a bit of fun.
if the future lynx gets of the ground and the army do a contract for them then your see, lets just say the army has made requests, as a provision for winning a contract it must have the ability to carry anti tank support.
as civys we dont know every thing thats going on, but if the contract comes up the future lynx would have to have the ability to be modular to compete with foreign imports for the contract.
but on the real subject (ie wargaming), isnt having a heli with pods more fun than not having the pods, and if it bothers you so much dont use them..simple.
(back on to the parrele world we live in) not all Navy copters have racks as not all army ones will do, same goese the other way for both some will some wont.
if navy can shoot rockets the you can bet the army will want to as well lol.
either way game is more important to me, i wanna have fun and blow up enemy tanks from the air, real or unreal ? well why do i have more brit casualties in a game than we suffer in a month in real world ? thing will never all add up, and the fun with future units is you can have a bit of fun.
emperorpenguin said:
In which case you can also simply ignore the option...Quick, easy, fixes your problem with it. Nobody in Mongoose is going to come over and arrest you for not using the option...
How long you think it would take British army to instal the anti-tank weaponry on Lynx? Not that many years...If they first planned it and then scrapped the idea they can just as well later decide it's good idea anyway(heck might just as well get more use out of same chassis). How many future lynxes have been completed by the way? Has the design even been FINALISED yet?
no true future lynx exist the do tests on systems on current lynx and simulations.
project was running when i was at colledge day release that was about when my daughter was born so 8 years ago, evan now there is less available info on the net than there was back then on it, imagin where they are now ! and they still not built the darn thing properly. imagin the changes and addons they have planned for inclusion over the next 10 years, technology exists now we could of only guesed at back then.
i dont thing the future lynx mongoose has produced is accurate from what ive seen but its a good bit of guese work. to behonest i dont think evan westlands know 100% what the final product is going to turn out like yet.
project was running when i was at colledge day release that was about when my daughter was born so 8 years ago, evan now there is less available info on the net than there was back then on it, imagin where they are now ! and they still not built the darn thing properly. imagin the changes and addons they have planned for inclusion over the next 10 years, technology exists now we could of only guesed at back then.
i dont thing the future lynx mongoose has produced is accurate from what ive seen but its a good bit of guese work. to behonest i dont think evan westlands know 100% what the final product is going to turn out like yet.
Gibbs said:
sorry about that.... but i needed it to live! i fear that with out its awesomeness i may die. :lol:
look with all this business over the "there are no tow armed future lynx" its simple, you have the option as Matt said to run them with out it, hell as a gamer you could mod the rules and even send them into S&P for a article on accurate more TOE or unit card.
personally i don't have a problem with a TOW armed Future Lynx, it is not a stretch to see it with TOW racks installed, all it would take is a little bit of redesign and a need for it to happen (in this case you have the threat of China, USA and god knows who else enters the fray with hvy armour)
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Mr Evil said:
Proof? Apache is very succesful and cost too much to scrap....
Proof? The contract already exists it is for 40 Future Lynxes, I really wonder where you get your info from...
contract is already decided....
in that case add missile pods to Challengers, Warriors, infantry men, to hell with accuracy if you're having fun....
All RN lynxes carry missiles and torps Evil, please stop making stuff up of the top of your head and POST SOME PROOF!
:roll: :roll: :roll: that is how you think it works?
One Word: TIGER
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Mongoose
tneva82 said:
read the page Evil posted. TOW won't fit on a wheeled Lynx, current or future
Hellfires might but those are TOWs on the Mongoose model
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Mongoose
Mr Evil said:
of all the daft things..... :roll:
I give up, there is no reason when people refuse to accept something is wrong, plain and simple
