Vote on Skinnie Models: Should I Stay or Should I Go?

[shotgun-toting chipmunk]

Mongoose staff have mentioned the intent to redo a bunch of the models in the Skinnie range for BF:Evo. I know a few different groups come to mind for me as far as people seeming to like or dislike them, but I wanted to get some actual numbers. Maybe the staff could use the info. So here's what I'm thinking: I'll list all the currently released Skinnie Models, and you say KEEP or REDO for each one (please specifically use these words, see my example). I'll update this initial post as votes are cast. If you have a suggestion for a model you'd like to get changed (after all, we want to be constructive, right?) feel free to put it next to the models name in the list. Please, keep it brief so the thread is easy to follow. Also, no "Get this other thing made" or "create a unit like this" posts, there's already a thread for that. Thanks.

Okay, less talk, more voting!

Skinnie Model Release (Keep/Redo)

Brutes (4/4) (1 absention)
Guard Heavy Weapons (8/1)
Heavy Speeder (8/1)
Speeders (8/1)
Soldier Heavy Weapons (7/1) (1 absention)
Cabal (8/1)
Slaves (0/9)
Leader of Slaves (2/7)
General (6/3)
Guard (7/2)
Lord (3/6)
Venerables (0/8 ) (1 abstention)
Tyrant (3/6)
Militia (9/0)
Soldiers (8/1)
Raiders (7/2)
Warchief (0/9)

Last Vote Tallied: Galatea
Total voters: 9

 

[MaxSteiner]

Skinnie Model Release (Keep/Redo)

Brutes (Redo) Redo the weapons (Even if its just a selection of heads they look like hockey sticks), the anatomy appears more chubby than skinny too...
Guard Heavy Weapons (Keep) Keep, really nice models.
Heavy Speeder (Keep) Keep, nice model.
Speeders (Keep) Keep, but be aware people are just gonna use Eldar Grav bikes because they're cheaper...
Soldier Heavy Weapons (Keep) Kepp
Cabal (Keep) ... Keep....
Slaves (Redo) OMG redo these.... or dont bother if you can't find someone able to do a human face.
Leader of Slaves (Redo) Ditto, this model did more damage to Mongooses reputation than people realise.
General (Keep) I actually like this one, the retro scifi look would have been good if mongoose stuck with it across the whole line!
Guard (Keep) Actually pretty good too
Lord (Keep) Yeah thats a keeper
Venerables (Redo) ... Redo the shoulder weapons they look like they were stuck on at the last minuite.
Tyrant (Not sure) Not to bad... a bit busy maybe...
Militia (keep) These are alright, again the retro feel actually helps IMO
Soldiers (Keep) Yeah
Raiders (Redo) Redo the weapons they're far too flat... Actually since they're the mainstray troops redo them too.
Warchief (Redo).... Sort out the saddle so the fig isnt hovering above the saddle.

 

[shotgun-toting chipmunk]

Brutes KEEP
Guard Heavy Weapons KEEP
Heavy Speeder KEEP
Speeders KEEP
Soldier Heavy Weapons KEEP
Cabal KEEP
Slaves REDO: There should be more than just humans, and they look like monkeys!
Leader of Slaves KEEP: He looks right because of the skinnie-like alterations.
General KEEP
Guard KEEP
Lord REDO: Match it to the artwork ie longer boneshard, smaller array, and proportioned chest and torso.
Venerables REDO: See Lord, plus the rocket launcher looks too unwieldy
Tyrant REDO: Drop the 40kish glove and adjust his proportions to be less beefy.
Militia KEEP
Soldiers KEEP
Raiders KEEP
Warchief REDO: Match the artwork ie no greek helmet, meaner-looking lance, artwork tawn

 

[human_target]

Here are the Belgian votes:

Brutes REDO
Guard Heavy Weapons KEEP
Heavy Speeder KEEP
Speeders KEEP
Soldier Heavy Weapons KEEP
Cabal KEEP
Slaves REDO
Leader of Slaves REDO
General KEEP
Guard KEEP
Lord REDO:
Venerables REDO
Tyrant REDO
Militia KEEP
Soldiers KEEP
Raiders KEEP
Warchief REDO
T'Pai KEEP

 

[Gauntlet-]

Brutes KEEP
Guard Heavy Weapons REDO
Heavy Speeder KEEP
Speeders KEEP
Soldier Heavy Weapons REDO
Cabal KEEP
Slaves REDO
Leader of Slaves REDO
General KEEP
Guard REDO
Lord KEEP
Venerables EITHER
Tyrant REDO
Militia KEEP
Soldiers REDO *too busy
Raiders KEEP
Warchief REDO



The Guard, Soldiers, and Venerables all need to be scaled to fit with Raiders.

 

[Mage]

Brutes KEEP
Guard Heavy Weapons KEEP
Heavy Speeder KEEP
Speeders KEEP
Soldier Heavy Weapons
Cabal KEEP
Slaves REDO
Leader of Slaves REDO
General REDO
Guard KEEP (but fix some parts of the sculpt, between bodies and guns)
Lord KEEP (but include a helmeted head variant)
Venerables REDO (to make them look like the awesome art work)
Tyrant KEEP
Militia KEEP
Soldiers KEEP (but fix the casting, they dont balance)
Raiders KEEP (but fix mould lines and all that stuff, feet are terrible)
Warchief REDO

To a degree I think everything should be changed, as there is a lack of consistancy across the board with regard digits on feet and hands.

 

[Rob_A]

Brutes : Keep, add to range, maybe change weapons.
Guard Heavy Weapons: These are nice, edit weapons slightly?
Heavy Speeder : Redo, definately.
Speeders : Red, definately.
Soldier Heavy Weapons : I'm happy with them.
Cabal : I'm happy with them!
Slaves: Redo
Leader of Slaves : Just, redo.
General : Mmm. I liked the picture in the book, but the mini was disappointing, if the mini looked like that picture, I'd be over the moon.
Guard: They are lovely. keep.
Lord: mmmm difficult. Change slightly. Make them fit in with Guard etc.
Venerables: Same as above.
Tyrant: Nice, Love the mini, keep.
Militia: Again, really nice, keep.
Soldiers: Keep.
Raiders; Make them taller and skinnier, add some detail. Otherwise, nice.
Warchief: Some slight changes, make him a bit more 'brutal'. Less human.

These are simply personal opinions, I love skinnies, I own pretty much all these minis (lacking brutes and leader of slaves). I just think as an army in whole, they lack uniformation in any way. I am not going out of my way to change other people's opinions!

 

[Goldwyrm]

Brutes (Redo)
Guard Heavy Weapons (Keep)
Heavy Speeder (Keep)
Speeders (Keep)
Soldier Heavy Weapons (Keep)
Cabal (Redo)
Slaves (Redo)
Leader of Slaves (Redo)
General (Keep)
Guard (Keep)
Lord (Redo)
Venerables (Redo
Tyrant (Redo)
Militia (Keep)
Soldiers (Keep)
Raiders (Keep)
Warchief (Redo)

 

[Rabidchild]

Brutes REDO (Just the weapons. who doesn't call them hockey sticks?)
Guard Heavy Weapons KEEP
Heavy Speeder KEEP
Speeders KEEP
Soldier Heavy Weapons KEEP
Cabal KEEP
Slaves REDO
Leader of Slaves KEEP
General REDO: Drop the hats and goggles from him and his bodyguard
Guard KEEP
Lord REDO: I second the request to match it to the artwork.
Venerables REDO: "See Lord, plus the rocket launcher looks too unwieldy" QFT
Tyrant REDO: From scratch please. They're alien, let's give them alien poses.
Militia KEEP: They're a little awkward, but it's mainly the armored leader that makes them feel incohesive.
Soldiers KEEP: Works of art, more like them!
Raiders KEEP
Warchief REDO: The artwork is great, stick to it. Again, they're alien so keep them alien, the greek looking crest doesn't work. I'd be fine with a mask to match his mount, just keep it alien.

 

[Mage]

You know if the brutes disruptor glaives change then we wil be upseeting ice hockey fans everywhere...

 

[shotgun-toting chipmunk]

Eight votes so far! Tell everybody, make your opinions known! And please remember to specifically write KEEP or REDO, as this makes it easier for me to tally votes rather than interpreting everybody's specific opinions. Thanks!

 

[Goldwyrm]

Eight votes so far!

Only 8 voters but I think you helped identify a very good trend, at least among those of us that care enough to respond.

A majority of the models listed are either unanimously voted for keeping or being redone and only a small number are split decisions. I'd say that is very good consensus so far.

 

[Mage]

Hopefully the company will take note.

 

[Galatea]

Brutes (-) They are okay, but the could be better
Guard Heavy Weapons (KEEP)
Heavy Speeder (KEEP)
Speeders (KEEP)
Soldier Heavy Weapons (KEEP)
Cabal (KEEP) one of the most beautiful units within the range
Slaves (REDO)
Leader of Slaves (REDO) *uarg!*
General (KEEP) I really like it
Guard (REDO) more like the artwork!
Lord (REDO) like the artwork!
Venerables (REDO) like the artwork!
Tyrant (REDO) *uarg!*
Militia (KEEP)
Soldiers (KEEP)
Raiders (KEEP)
Warchief (REDO) *uarg!* Do it like the artwork!


In fact the single models aren't the problem. The problem is the inconsistancy in the line.
At least half of the skinnie range needs to be redone - not because the models are that bad, but because they don't fit together.