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Anstett
Emperor Mongoose
There is a map on the Mongoose Discord from @Grognardia shows all the sectors with published information. None for the Extents currently.
"Gvurrdon Sector is one of the power houses of the Vargr Extents." - Traveller Wiki. Not that I know a thing about it myself outside of that sentence so I will just take its word for it...
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
You could make up anything, and still be within the bounds of plausibility.
G'Naakbusters
Emperor Mongoose
There is, as others have hinted, the Mongoose 1st Edition Vargr scourcebook which features Gvurrdon Sector, which is part of the Extents.
Other than that, no map books currently, but much of the Extents (particularly the rimward parts) are detailed on Traveller Map and the wiki extrapolating from it; so, not official, but not contradictory.
Other than that, no map books currently, but much of the Extents (particularly the rimward parts) are detailed on Traveller Map and the wiki extrapolating from it; so, not official, but not contradictory.
MasterGwydion
Emperor Mongoose
It was "high time" for both of those regions to be detailed decades ago, but oh well.
mortal
Mongoose
Yes please
There's the Classic and MegaTraveller Alien Modules.
CT Alien Module 3 has full UWPs for Gvurrdon Sector and an adventure set there. There is a rough map of sectors that gives their names.
DGP Alien Module 1 (Vilani & Vargr) has a map of cultural regions of the Extents, and a larger sector name map, as well as a "dot map" that shows all the system locations (but no UWP data). As far as source data, it's still probably the best single volume for Vargr (as well as the main Vilani one).
CT Alien Module 3 has full UWPs for Gvurrdon Sector and an adventure set there. There is a rough map of sectors that gives their names.
DGP Alien Module 1 (Vilani & Vargr) has a map of cultural regions of the Extents, and a larger sector name map, as well as a "dot map" that shows all the system locations (but no UWP data). As far as source data, it's still probably the best single volume for Vargr (as well as the main Vilani one).
Because of the DGP copyright issues, some of the above may not be freely available for Mongoose to publish. But I'm pretty sure Travellermap has all of the above, plus UWPs. But keep in mind the second half of a Vargr UWP is subject to far more change than most. Governments and law levels will change often, and Vargr populations are more migratory than most - smaller population codes will sometimes go up or down a point.
Feel free to change stuff or just roll it up.
(and the DGP book is still fairly available on eBay etc for a reasonable price - about US$60-80 including shipping should get you a copy)
Feel free to change stuff or just roll it up.
(and the DGP book is still fairly available on eBay etc for a reasonable price - about US$60-80 including shipping should get you a copy)
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GypsyComet
Emperor Mongoose
Massilia should also be on this map as it was in Knightfall, albeit with an 1120 internal date. Hinterworlds is in that era, so it is more about the political changes than the date or source. One of the Julian sectors should also be there, from Challenge.
The DGP exclusion also loses us Vland.
As for fan works, they *can* get a little funky, but that's a case by case ruling. "Fan work" became the basis for Mongoose's biggest selling environment/campaign: Trojan Reach and the Pirates of Drinax spring from mid 80s fan work.
Fan work going back to MegaTraveller does include at least one more Vargr Extents sector, as I think Meshan saw a lot of work.
The DGP exclusion also loses us Vland.
As for fan works, they *can* get a little funky, but that's a case by case ruling. "Fan work" became the basis for Mongoose's biggest selling environment/campaign: Trojan Reach and the Pirates of Drinax spring from mid 80s fan work.
Fan work going back to MegaTraveller does include at least one more Vargr Extents sector, as I think Meshan saw a lot of work.
collins355
Cosmic Mongoose
HIWG represent!!
It's worth noting that at least the Vargr section heavily draws from the CT module and we don't totally "lose Vland" since the CT Atlas of the Imperium laid out the sector, provided the starports, bases, era 1065 allegiances, GGs, planet symbols, and named all the high population planets. I am unsure if the sector data itself was ever the property of DGP, or just supplied to them by GW.
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Maxijohndoe
Banded Mongoose
One issue that may be putting people off making a Vargr Extents book is the system names are just random letters. Unlike the Aslan where someone made an effort to create a language the Vargr are probably too diverse to have a standard language.
A handful of the systems across the border from the Spinward Marches and Deneb has enough information to create a full solar system, but most have little info available.
A handful of the systems across the border from the Spinward Marches and Deneb has enough information to create a full solar system, but most have little info available.
I think it's sufficient to do the Extents with broad strokes. You SHOULDN'T know exactly what you're going to find as you travel around, even if you're Vargr. The borders given in 1120 can be considered provisional in regard to other eras, and I don't think anyone is supposed to have properly surveyed the area. The IISS would have enough trouble getting good data on the coreward border subsectors, let alone the sectors.
Having said that, the people that live there do need to travel, so the astronomical data needed to Jump is likely gathered and traded, at least locally. After centuries, the Scouts would have some idea, at least as far as stars and mainworld orbits go.
As far as system and world names go, it's likely the same as ever - some attempt to apply local labels, but ultimately the world names are for the use of whoever is using the maps. Imperial star charts use "Lair"; a Vargr one would likely use the Gvegh word their tradition prefers. There's always the option to replace the Gvegh names with a translation. So you might go to "Hellworld" or "Prince Blackmane".
Having said that, the people that live there do need to travel, so the astronomical data needed to Jump is likely gathered and traded, at least locally. After centuries, the Scouts would have some idea, at least as far as stars and mainworld orbits go.
As far as system and world names go, it's likely the same as ever - some attempt to apply local labels, but ultimately the world names are for the use of whoever is using the maps. Imperial star charts use "Lair"; a Vargr one would likely use the Gvegh word their tradition prefers. There's always the option to replace the Gvegh names with a translation. So you might go to "Hellworld" or "Prince Blackmane".
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Maxijohndoe
Banded Mongoose
Is there an actual Vargr dictionary anywhere?
I searched but didn't find one. There was a Aslan dictionary of sorts on the Traveller Wiki and I used it to name my Aslan planets when I was making my System maps.
I am now updating my work for the Spinward Marches and Regina has a few worlds across the border in Uthe I could create if I had a handle on Vargr words.
I searched but didn't find one. There was a Aslan dictionary of sorts on the Traveller Wiki and I used it to name my Aslan planets when I was making my System maps.
I am now updating my work for the Spinward Marches and Regina has a few worlds across the border in Uthe I could create if I had a handle on Vargr words.
Jarac Rassen
Mongoose
This. I'm hoping that we get a Vargr Extents book soon.
