Troligan?
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prelude_to_war
Mongoose
I thought it was hull 6....(looks at SFoS)...right then. If the armored Troligan is hull 5, does that mean non-amored Troligans are hull 4?!? Ick. Hull 6 would get my vote. If the idea is something slow that can take a beating, that should do the trick.
LaranosTZ
Mongoose
According to the original fluff the Troligan was a ship-disruption fleet. It was deliberately set up to take a beating, but be under-armed. It would float into the middle of an enemy fleet to force them to scatter, or otherwise disrupt fleet movements. In such a role, I'm not sure it needs twin-linking, but hull six would make it perfectly fit that role.
emperorpenguin
Mongoose
hull 6 is my vote too
Well, rather than start a new thread, this one seems quite usable...
How to fix the Troligan? First let's consider what's wrong (and anything that's right with it) and perhaps this will show the way.
First, compare it to the other Minbari battle choices - only the Morshin beats it in terms of craft. With a solitary flyer flight, the Troligan trumps the Veshatan and the Tinashi.
The Tinashi is weaker by around 20 points on hull and crew, wheras the Veshatan has slightly more hull but slightly less crew.
Speed-wise the Veshatan and Tinashi are way ahead, and the Tinashi has 2 turns.
AD-wise, the Tinashi is probably best all-round. With 4 beam and 8/6/6/6 minibeam. The Troligan rolls in an all-round second with 2 beam and 8/6/6/6. The Veshetan trumps it on beam but sacrifices the secondary guns.
All are hull 5, all are stealth 4. So, what role does the Troligan currently fill? No tougher than either ship, but can soak up more damage than a Tinashi at the cost of speed and beam shots.
Bumping it up to hull 6 would definately separate it from the others (the all round warship Tinashi and the fast gunship Veshatan). The weapons loadout is pretty good as is - its fragility is what makes it redundant.
Bumping it up to 2/45 would also make it a real close in powerhouse with that low speed making for a good turning circle.
How to fix the Troligan? First let's consider what's wrong (and anything that's right with it) and perhaps this will show the way.
First, compare it to the other Minbari battle choices - only the Morshin beats it in terms of craft. With a solitary flyer flight, the Troligan trumps the Veshatan and the Tinashi.
The Tinashi is weaker by around 20 points on hull and crew, wheras the Veshatan has slightly more hull but slightly less crew.
Speed-wise the Veshatan and Tinashi are way ahead, and the Tinashi has 2 turns.
AD-wise, the Tinashi is probably best all-round. With 4 beam and 8/6/6/6 minibeam. The Troligan rolls in an all-round second with 2 beam and 8/6/6/6. The Veshetan trumps it on beam but sacrifices the secondary guns.
All are hull 5, all are stealth 4. So, what role does the Troligan currently fill? No tougher than either ship, but can soak up more damage than a Tinashi at the cost of speed and beam shots.
Bumping it up to hull 6 would definately separate it from the others (the all round warship Tinashi and the fast gunship Veshatan). The weapons loadout is pretty good as is - its fragility is what makes it redundant.
Bumping it up to 2/45 would also make it a real close in powerhouse with that low speed making for a good turning circle.
Black Omega
Mongoose
At risk of sounding completely sacriligious i actually prefer the troligan mini to the Neshatan one 
Wulf Corbett
Mongoose
I personally think the Morshin is the ugliest...Black Omega said:At risk of sounding completely sacriligious i actually prefer the troligan mini to the Neshatan one
Wulf
Black Omega
Mongoose
frobisher said:Wulf Corbett said:
The space slug
+1 lol :lol:
Wulf Corbett
Mongoose
Nah, that's these: http://www.gtns.co.uk/store1/commerce.cgi?product=FT-PHfrobisher said:The space slugWulf Corbett said:
Wulf
Alexb83 said:
No argument here. Your point on the Sag being fixed is good. We should pressure Mongoose to fix the lame ships, not just the maxed ones. I'd play it by house rules, but that only goes so far. It needs to be official.
Troligan, as is with hull 6 is the easiest way to make is usable. Another turn or a flight would also be good, but I just want a playable ship, not another broken one. The hull I know it needs, the others might tip the scales.
