I have a soft spot for watching 'bad' or 'panned' films, I think sometimes you can find something wholly endearing about them. They're both on my 5 star list on Letterboxd which, as a site, typically rates things lower than others.
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Even then I think the comments speak to something important: the people didn't care how stupid the plot was ang genuinely just wanted to make a
fun movie. Not to wax lyrical about Velocipastor but I think it's one of the few movies made in recent years that has made me want to sit down and watch rather than doing it because I've nothing else to do. Same with Sinners; Abby and I went to the cinema to watch it and it made me genuinely glad I'd seen it in theatrical release rather than waiting for it on a streaming site.