The lost tales??? Centauri fighter

[Darthxon]

For thoes that have paid a lot of attention to The Lost Tales

Waner Br. did indeed lost the CGI disks. So the CGI team had to look up at fan models for help and also start some from scratch. The Vorchan and the Sentri models are the same. The CGI team just used a new generation of CGI to enhance there detail and quality. The only new models that we see in the The Lost Tales is the Kutai Gunship and the Balvarin Carrier.

This info was gathered from verious news updates and watching the Making of The Lost Tales.

I could be wrong, but, who knows

 

[emperorpenguin]

Which reminds me: That's supposed to be a demos, right?
Shouldn't the in-service date for the demos allow that?

no reason to think it's a Demos rather than a Vorchan

 

[emperorpenguin]

the "In the Beginning" Narn ship is not a G'Quan its a G'Koth transport cruiser

of course it is..... :wink:

 

[Taran]

You know, the Centauri seem to have several different sizes of ships of similar design to the Vorchan and Demos. Some, (the one from In the Beginning, for example) are as large or larger than G'Quans. Perhaps it's a different ship that MGP didn't include?

 

[locarno24]

no reason to think it's a Demos rather than a Vorchan

Err.....the torpedoes?

 

[Lord David the Denied]

It doesn't fire torpedoes in In the Beginning. Just a fast volley from the dorsal ion cannon turret. G'Quan goes boom.

 

[emperorpenguin]

no reason to think it's a Demos rather than a Vorchan

Err.....the torpedoes?

what torpedoes? :roll: there were no torpedoes in that scene!

 

[emperorpenguin]

You know, the Centauri seem to have several different sizes of ships of similar design to the Vorchan and Demos. Some, (the one from In the Beginning, for example) are as large or larger than G'Quans. Perhaps it's a different ship that MGP didn't include?

what evidence is there that it was

as large or larger than G'Quans

really people watch the scenes involved rather than relying on dodgy memories, no offence

 

[Taran]

I did just watch the scene immediately before posting that.
The Narn ship looked similar to a G'Quan, though not quite the same and Centauri vessel was significantly larger.

Also, in the episode in Year 5 where Lenier leeches onto the Centauri ship that is controlled by Drahk drone thingies, there were several different sizes of ships of the same general design.

 

[Burger]

Also, in the episode in Year 5 where Lenier leeches onto the Centauri ship that is controlled by Drahk drone thingies, there were several different sizes of ships of the same general design.

This cow is small. This cow is far away.

(Father Ted )

 

[emperorpenguin]

I did just watch the scene immediately before posting that.
The Narn ship looked similar to a G'Quan, though not quite the same and Centauri vessel was significantly larger.

Also, in the episode in Year 5 where Lenier leeches onto the Centauri ship that is controlled by Drahk drone thingies, there were several different sizes of ships of the same general design.

we also see Omegas and Sharlins of (apparently) wildly varying sizes. The CGI guys got things wrong, it doesn't mean there should be x number of variants of different sizes

 

[harikaridog]

I did just watch the scene immediately before posting that.
The Narn ship looked similar to a G'Quan, though not quite the same and Centauri vessel was significantly larger.

Also, in the episode in Year 5 where Lenier leeches onto the Centauri ship that is controlled by Drahk drone thingies, there were several different sizes of ships of the same general design.

we also see Omegas and Sharlins of (apparently) wildly varying sizes. The CGI guys got things wrong, it doesn't mean there should be x number of variants of different sizes

Such a scenario is not new to SF gaming, the apparent differences in size of the Klingon Bird of Prey in the Star Trek III and IV movies prompted FASA to create at least three versions of this vessel in the Star Trek Combat Simulator Miniatures game ranging from a 12 man scout ship to a full blown Heavy Cruiser.

 

[Taran]

ummm, that makes no sense.
ST3 and 4 should have had identically sized Birds of Prey since they were supposed to be exactly the same ship...
IOW, in ST3, they capture the ship that they flew in ST4...


But, hey. I was just pointing it out. I spent some time in training to become a professional nitpicker...

...Oh, an Haha, Burger...

 

[harikaridog]

ummm, that makes no sense.
ST3 and 4 should have had identically sized Birds of Prey since they were supposed to be exactly the same ship...
IOW, in ST3, they capture the ship that they flew in ST4...


But, hey. I was just pointing it out. I spent some time in training to become a professional nitpicker...

...Oh, an Haha, Burger...

Personally I felt it was a knackered cloaking device....it changed the ships size every time it was used

Hey Taran, In fact by the time Next Gen came along the Star Trek Encyclopadias had given us two ship classes the smaller B'Rel and the bigger K'Vort, .....so don't worry about suggesting that different ship sizes of the same ship model on film might require different versions because with ST it became canon.

 

[M1ndr1d3rs]

K'vort, B'rel, D-12 for Klingons... OK

Vorchan, Demos for Centauri.

I believe Omega sizes are screw ups, though.

Sharlin, Shargoti (Black Star)... Is there anything else in the Warcruiser family? Gamewise or canon, since I dont play the game.

 

[harikaridog]

K'vort, B'rel, D-12 for Klingons... OK

Vorchan, Demos for Centauri.

I believe Omega sizes are screw ups, though.

Sharlin, Shargoti (Black Star)... Is there anything else in the Warcruiser family? Gamewise or canon, since I dont play the game.

Well as far as Canon is concerned.....TV show....Movies etc...then there is the Sharlin.........one of which was apparently lighted differently to become the Grey Council ship.

If you consider B5 Wars by Agents of gaming to be Canon (and its seems that JMS did)....then you have

Shargoti Battlecruiser, 25% bigger than the standard Sharlin ('Black Star' from in the Beginning was supposed to be a Shargoti according to AOG

Sharaal War cruiser - older vesrion of Sharlin still used by the Minbari protectorate

(bet there were plenty more in the 'variants' supplements)

Mongoose introduced......although they may have been originally AOG variants

Sharkaan Advanced War Cruiser - Warlock Killer

Shaaroos Heavy Warcruiser - upgraded Sharlin

I'm sure there are more. (never had the Armageddon supplement...so don't know if there was anything in that?)

of course as far as the Vorchan hull is concerned....don't forget the Vorchar and the Vorchat....which have now vanished into an alternate universe .......or even the poor old Darmoti (a Demos variant)

 

[M1ndr1d3rs]

Sharkaan, Warlock killer... Like the sound of that, but why is that so. Not through superior firepower, I'd wager. Is it superior to the Sharoos?

About the Black Star, I'm not sure since I watched In the Beginning a long time ago, but it seemed quite a bit bigger. Well more than 25 %. But since CGIs tend to get messed up, what can I say...

 

[KONNOC]

Hey,
I just watched that clip... a little too closely and way too many times.
The Warlock that looks like it got taken out easily was hit being hit by 3 Vochans at the same time, and you see a Kutai Gunship in there too (but its not obvious if its firing or not).

Theres also a Bavarin hanging out in the background with Sentri fighters all around it fighting the EA Starfuries (its on the right side of the screen by the Warlock that fires the beam)

The beam firing Warlock is engaging multiple targets (fighters and ships) it rocks the one Vorchan, and is engaged with a second to the left. The hits it takes look bad yet appear to dissaptate with no damage to the ship and it continues to fight on.

In the back back ground, theres an Omega exchanging fire with(Something) maybe a Vorchan... but could be a Centurion of Dargan who knows... whatever it is destroys the Omega.

Needless to say there is alot going on in such a short scene, and I'm sure I missed some stuff. (Like who the Warlock fires its missles at)

Oh and ya.... its a Sentri... they all are... and the wings are curved... though they do look pretty flat.

AND YES... I have too much time on my hands.
KONNOC

 

[emperorpenguin]

In the back back ground, theres an Omega exchanging fire with(Something) maybe a Vorchan... but could be a Centurion of Dargan who knows... whatever it is destroys the Omega.

Oh and ya.... its a Sentri... they all are... and the wings are curved... though they do look pretty flat.

it's a Primus

and just because it's a Centauri fighter and shows some similarities (and notable differences) with sentris, doesn't make it a sentri.
By that token the Challenger II MBT is the same as the Challenger I even though they have only 10% commonality in systems!

There are a multitude of different versions of ships in both ACTA and B5Wars, largely based on minor differences. Those "Vorchans" and "Sentris" from TLT are significantly different enough to warrant being a new class

 

[Shadow Queen]

Lent mine out in Oct.... Not seen it since