slaughterj
Mongoose
What sorts of feats do people tend to get for starting scholars? (Assuming 2 for favored classes.)
Starting Scholar Feats
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slaughterj
Mongoose
I've given Eyes of the Cat (good for reading dusty tomes in the dark 
), as well as the Point Blank Shot / Rapid Shot chain. Toughness does sound good as well.
), as well as the Point Blank Shot / Rapid Shot chain. Toughness does sound good as well.Clovenhoof
Mongoose
slaughterj's choice seems a good one to me. Also, "Knowledgeable" sounds like a must-have for a Scholar, though you probably don't need it from 1st level on.
BTW I think it's a pity that Scholar PCs basically have no choice but be Sorcerers. It would be neat if they had some kind of alternative they could trade their "New Sorcery Styles" etc. for.
I just don't know what that might be.
BTW I think it's a pity that Scholar PCs basically have no choice but be Sorcerers. It would be neat if they had some kind of alternative they could trade their "New Sorcery Styles" etc. for.
I just don't know what that might be.
Yogah of Yag
Mongoose
Clovenhoof said:slaughterj's choice seems a good one to me. Also, "Knowledgeable" sounds like a must-have for a Scholar, though you probably don't need it from 1st level on.
BTW I think it's a pity that Scholar PCs basically have no choice but be Sorcerers. It would be neat if they had some kind of alternative they could trade their "New Sorcery Styles" etc. for.
I just don't know what that might be.
You can certainly have a non-sorcerous scholar.
slaughterj
Mongoose
Yogah of Yag said:Clovenhoof said:slaughterj's choice seems a good one to me. Also, "Knowledgeable" sounds like a must-have for a Scholar, though you probably don't need it from 1st level on.
BTW I think it's a pity that Scholar PCs basically have no choice but be Sorcerers. It would be neat if they had some kind of alternative they could trade their "New Sorcery Styles" etc. for.
I just don't know what that might be.
You can certainly have a non-sorcerous scholar.
Exactly, as it says on p. 59, "at any time at which he is eligible to gain a new sorcery style, the scholar may instead gain a bonus feat from the following list..." Therefore, there can be and often are many non-sorcerous scholars.
Clovenhoof
Mongoose
*flipflipflip* I couldn't find it at first. Bloody hell, at last I found it, it's on p. 62 in my book though. I guess I hadn't read as far before.
slaughterj
Mongoose
Clovenhoof said:
Hmm, maybe you have the pre-Atlantean edition (i.e., 1st edition)?
Powergamer tip: take Iron Will at 1st then when you reach 5th (or whichever Scholar level gives Iron Will as a bonus feat, I think its 5th) you can trade in Iron Will for one of the sorcery feats that you couldn't meet the prerequisites for at 1st level.
Other good starting scholar feats. Improved Initative, Knowledgable (or any skill feat you prefer), Eyes of the Cat, Fleet Footed.
Those are general recomendations, other feats may be more apropo for specific builds.
Hope that helps.
Other good starting scholar feats. Improved Initative, Knowledgable (or any skill feat you prefer), Eyes of the Cat, Fleet Footed.
Those are general recomendations, other feats may be more apropo for specific builds.
Hope that helps.
slaughterj
Mongoose
argo said:
Interesting idea on the Iron Will, and some good suggestions otherwise.
Clovenhoof
Mongoose
slaughterj said:
Yup. I hear that US customers got their 1st eds traded in for AEs. There was no such deal for European customers. It can be confusing at times, because you often just don't know if it's an error or deliberate when something unusual is printed.
slaughterj
Mongoose
Clovenhoof said:
Yeah, there are a few annoying errors that can trip you up in that edition.
Clovenhoof
Mongoose
As we're about it -- sorry for the thread hijacking -- there's something on the skill list that I wonder if it's an error or not.
On the table where skills are listes as Class and crossclass skills, there's a line below saying something like: you get 2 ranks in all class skills at 1st level for free, and 1/2 rank in all class skills at each levelup, all before spending your own skill points.
I can't find any other reference to this rule.
Is this correct, do you get all these free skills, or was that just a draft or experiment that they forgot to delete?
On the table where skills are listes as Class and crossclass skills, there's a line below saying something like: you get 2 ranks in all class skills at 1st level for free, and 1/2 rank in all class skills at each levelup, all before spending your own skill points.
I can't find any other reference to this rule.
Is this correct, do you get all these free skills, or was that just a draft or experiment that they forgot to delete?
THe most important feat IMHO is 'Magic Power Attack' from THe Scrolls of Skelos supplement.
If you don't have the book (its out of print now!) it essentially allows u to add +1 to your magic attack for every 2 power points you expend over the normal spell cost. It makes your sorceror able to conquer those high Will power characters in a flash with Gkid Bones, then you tie them up and have a ritual sacrifice to SET.
Very useful. :twisted:
If you don't have the book (its out of print now!) it essentially allows u to add +1 to your magic attack for every 2 power points you expend over the normal spell cost. It makes your sorceror able to conquer those high Will power characters in a flash with Gkid Bones, then you tie them up and have a ritual sacrifice to SET.
Very useful. :twisted:
Lord Jolly the Scribe
Mongoose
It does all depend on whether going the sorcerous or nonsorcerous route, as well as if you are going the priest route. There are some nice Priest feats to work toward getting if you are going to be a Priest character.
If a nonsoercerous character, I like certain dualbonus skill feats (you know, +2 to this and this skill). Gives major jumps in rolls, especially if the GM is a adventure-runner with lots of skill rolls for texts and such.
I try to make my scholar a book-smart, alert, and very quick man, cause the rest of the group end up half criminal, half meat-shield. Also, I do a Scholar\Noble or vice versa path (witht he Noble Blood feat for the former, which can be a good choice for first level too). I give a character with that feat a little more RP leeway.
If a nonsoercerous character, I like certain dualbonus skill feats (you know, +2 to this and this skill). Gives major jumps in rolls, especially if the GM is a adventure-runner with lots of skill rolls for texts and such.
I try to make my scholar a book-smart, alert, and very quick man, cause the rest of the group end up half criminal, half meat-shield. Also, I do a Scholar\Noble or vice versa path (witht he Noble Blood feat for the former, which can be a good choice for first level too). I give a character with that feat a little more RP leeway.
Valgrim Bragisson
Mongoose
Noble Blood seems like a waste of a feat slot to me. Either start as a Noble, or roleplay your entry into the ruleing class by some spectacular means. Conan is king of the most powerful nation on Earth without this feat. The feat also ceases to be of any use once you take a leval of Noble.
I gave my Nemedian Occultist Dilligent and Knowlegeable at 1st leval.
MP
I gave my Nemedian Occultist Dilligent and Knowlegeable at 1st leval.
MP
Lord Jolly the Scribe
Mongoose
But what if you don't want to take the level in Noble and just want it for background and extra quirks. Some Gm's wouldn't allow certain things to be done in RP without the feat. I think it should give you certain bonuses, but even without those bonuses, there are feats in Hyboria's Finest that help you more if you have the feat as well as certain rules that work off it, such as the "weekly waste" rule on cash. I'd allow my players to use it for both contacts and for research in a month instead of 1 week of bonuses and 3 weeks of waste, giving them 2 weeks bonuses and 2 weeks waste.
