Special Actions
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No, if you do not peform "All Stop" (or "All Stop and Pivot") then you must move normally. What you did the previous turn is irrelevant.
Some admirals allow you to peform 2 special actions as long as they don't contradict each other, so by this method you could All Stop and Close Blast Doors at the same time.
Some admirals allow you to peform 2 special actions as long as they don't contradict each other, so by this method you could All Stop and Close Blast Doors at the same time.
Iain McGhee
Mongoose
Also, if your ship is in a gravity well it can perform All Stop as well as another SA.
l33tpenguin
Mongoose
I always thought it was a bit *silly* that ships couldn't stop without a special action. I mean, if I was building a starship, I would want to build one that could maintain a position with minimal effort. Can you imagine how many captains are forever annoyed that they can't do anything else but remain on the bridge issuing all stop orders while in space dock?
No. 1 Bear
Mongoose
just think about the energy needed to get it back to normal speed next turn!
lastbesthope
Mongoose
It all depends on your defenition of 'stop', all motion is relative.
LBH
LBH
The whole point of the ACtA movement system is that it keeps things simple rather than being particularly realistic. Generally it assumes that ships in a combat situation will be maintaining some sort of a speed but of course in reality this isn't necessarily the case with stopping or even reversing being possible.
However, to implement a more realistic movement system you'd have to go to something like Full Thrust which is what some people like but not others (realism vs. speed)
However, to implement a more realistic movement system you'd have to go to something like Full Thrust which is what some people like but not others (realism vs. speed)
l33tpenguin
Mongoose
Triggy said:
I'll pass on a FT type movement, I had a hard enough time back in B5Wars, constantly had my ships going WAY too fast and flying into walls or the legs of the pool table...
However, I don't like having to declare a SA just to stop. I wish there were a simpler way to control movement in ACTA that allowed ships to stop and stay stopped if the player desired, without a SA. You don't need a FT style movement system to just say 'Ships can accelerate or decelerate up to 1/2 their movement score per round, moving no faster than their speed forward or 1/2 their speed in reverse'
nekomata fuyu
Mongoose
Simpler still, just split movement into 4 speed bands - Stopped, Half Speed, Full Speed, and All Ahead Full (150%). Rather than having to keep track of exact speeds, you just have to keep track of which band the ship's moving in, and it keeps moving at that speed until you change it (maximum shift of one band per turn).
Specifics can be hammered out to include using a SA to change speed, and creating a trait to allow ships to shift speed by 2 bands. These wouldn't central to the idea though.
Specifics can be hammered out to include using a SA to change speed, and creating a trait to allow ships to shift speed by 2 bands. These wouldn't central to the idea though.
Locutus9956
Mongoose
To be fair theres two FT movement systems. One is VERY realistic but quite simple still (but also somewhat slower as you have to move counters around). The other is really very simple (I wouldnt say its much more complex than ACTA and other than the fact you prewrite all movement orders, it's no more time consuming than ACTA). It's STILL more realistic though 
All that said whilst there are some areas that I feel FT totally mops the floor with ACTA I have to say movement isnt one of them, I have no problem whatsoever with the ACTA movement system, it may not be particularly realistic but it works well enough for the game. And to be quite honest anyone who's had problems with ships flying off the table in B5Wars or FT needs to learn a simple lesson which is to SLOW THE FECK DOWN!!!! Just because an inertia based movement system has no top speed doesnt mean you need to move around at speed 25. Speed is life is the old axiom but it wont help much if you speed straight out into space
All that said whilst there are some areas that I feel FT totally mops the floor with ACTA I have to say movement isnt one of them, I have no problem whatsoever with the ACTA movement system, it may not be particularly realistic but it works well enough for the game. And to be quite honest anyone who's had problems with ships flying off the table in B5Wars or FT needs to learn a simple lesson which is to SLOW THE FECK DOWN!!!! Just because an inertia based movement system has no top speed doesnt mean you need to move around at speed 25. Speed is life is the old axiom but it wont help much if you speed straight out into space
When I played, we found the movement much faster than ACTA! Because all orders are pre-written, you don't have to ponder which ship to move first, try to adapt to what your opponent is doing, etc. The very slight increase in complexity is more than compensated by less time spent pontificating.Locutus9956 said:The other is really very simple (I wouldnt say its much more complex than ACTA and other than the fact you prewrite all movement orders, it's no more time consuming than ACTA). It's STILL more realistic though
No. 1 Bear
Mongoose
Pontifacating what a word. You could try ACTA rules system with pre written orders, but then that would make boresighting impossible. Anyway i do quite like the ACTA movement system even with the haha i have a swarm problem.
Locutus9956
Mongoose
Burger said:Best idea we've had for speeding up movement is to get a chess clock
Or a gun and a stopwatch
lastbesthope
Mongoose
So you've seen Burger's chess clock then..... :lol:
