Soo.... Airlock freebies

[Ezarhon]

The 95 ton shuttle has a bridge and it pays for the tonnage of its airlock.

Ack, Mongoose strikes again!

 

[Ezarhon]

Ah, The HG Shuttle on p 154 has the airlock listed, yet the same ship in the CB2024 p 226 , removes the airlock, and the airfins and fuel scoop for some reason, but the cargo seems to account for it.

 

[Vormaerin]

So say a Scout Courier at 100 tons. The rules say it MUST have an airlock, and every 100 tons of ship has a no-cost airlock, but it doesn't say a non-tonnage airlock. So are we now losing 2 tons, but no additional credits, for that 1 required airlock?
This implies you MUST have an airlock on a ship. So even a non-starship of 100 tons is required to have one, but a 95 ton small craft is not.

My 500 dton spy ship can have 5 airlocks as part of its hull cost, but it is only REQUIRED to have one. That's what it means.

The "free" airlocks come out of the same tonnage that accounts for your corridors and things. Which is why staterooms are not as large as their tonnage suggests.

 

[Condottiere]

A lot of this stuff is legacy.

Smallcraft are on their own in regard to freebie airlocks; they need interior access from the exterior, and you have a free hand with that.

Hundred tonne plus spacecraft get a free airlock per.

It's canon, if not physics.

 

[ResslynHalvik]

My take is:

1. At least one airlock per 500dT is recommended (except for small craft that have a cockpit and no passenger accommodation)
2. Per 100dT of hull volume you get 1 airlock at a zero credit cost
3. All airlocks take up hull volume, even the ones with zero credit cost

 

[Fluffy Bunny Feet]

1. All airlocks take up hull volume, even the ones with zero credit cost

Just checked my HG2022. Small craft list airlocks and pay for them. Xpress Boat, Scout Seekers, Far Trader and Free Trader do not, but they show up on the deck plans. Empress Marava shows 2 cargo airlocks which they pay for and they show up on the deck plans but not a standard airlock.

 

[ResslynHalvik]

Just checked my HG2022. Small craft list airlocks and pay for them. Xpress Boat, Scout Seekers, Far Trader and Free Trader do not, but they show up on the deck plans. Empress Marava shows 2 cargo airlocks which they pay for and they show up on the deck plans but not a standard airlock.

Pay for from credit, or pay for from tonnage, or both? I think the deck plans are a bit of a red herring, because they are something of an artist's impression!

 

[MasterGwydion]

Seems a bit silly to say tho, like ; you need 2 bits of bread to make a sandwich, and every sandwich comes with 2 slices free....

Big Mac has three pieces of bread.

 

[ResslynHalvik]

Big Mac has three pieces of bread.

I think there's a lot of cheese and "special sauce" in the rule books

 

[Fluffy Bunny Feet]

Pay for from credit, or pay for from tonnage, or both? I think the deck plans are a bit of a red herring, because they are something of an artist's impression!

They are not listed as a component either for price or tonnage. They do show on the deck plans though.

 

[Fluffy Bunny Feet]

Big Mac has three pieces of bread.

Cheap component to make it larger. Common in industry.

 

[Terry Mixon]

My take is:

1. At least one airlock per 500dT is recommended (except for small craft that have a cockpit and no passenger accommodation)
2. Per 100dT of hull volume you get 1 airlock at a zero credit cost
3. All airlocks take up hull volume, even the ones with zero credit cost

Doesn't sound discretionary. "A ship has at least one airlock per 500 tons." Not might have. Does have.

 

[mavikfelna]

Doesn't sound discretionary. "A ship has at least one airlock per 500 tons." Not might have. Does have.

Is a Pod a Ship? It's unclear to be honest.

 

[MasterGwydion]

Is a Pod a Ship? It's unclear to be honest.

It is part of a ship that is detachable and some of them can fly around on their own, so, technically, yes.

 

[ResslynHalvik]

They are not listed as a component either for price or tonnage. They do show on the deck plans though.

When I get a chance I'll add up the numbers and see

 

[Condottiere]

Since I had to look up the Big Mac Index recently, pure statistics can be deceptive, and need to be regarded in view of their local environment.

Also, there are more options on the menu.

 

[Fluffy Bunny Feet]

When I get a chance I'll add up the numbers and see

Just did the express boat 100 tons no airlock allocation.

 

[Terry Mixon]

Is a Pod a Ship? It's unclear to be honest.

A pod is built to ship standard as it is always carried externally.

 

[Arkathan]

The 95 ton shuttle has a bridge and it pays for the tonnage of its airlock.

It also pays the credits for that airlock. Small Craft do not get the free airlock per 100 tons, because they have not reached 100 tons of volume.

 

[Condottiere]

The smart thing to do, would be to design and build a hundred tonne shuttle.