Small cloaking question.

[Sgt_G]

I'm guessing that as long as it hasn't already moved or 'done something' (i.e; been 'activated' and taken its' turn) - it should be able to move and fire as normal (if in a slightly shocked manner! :twisted: ).

Huh? Of course it has moved during the Movement Phase. We're talking about during the Attack Phase.

What other "done something" could it have done? It can't fire while cloaked; all it can do is move (slowly) and reload weapons.

A cloaked Romulan (or Orion) ship moves not-more-than 6" during Movement Phase, then in Attack Phase it gets hit with the Golden BB that does a Dilithium Chamber level-two critical = Lose one random trait, and bad luck it loses the cloak. It is forced to de-cloak immediately. Can that ship now fire any weapons, even if only phasers, during this Attack Phase?

Some people are saying "no" because it didn't use Disengage Cloak! special action during the Movement Phase.

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What about a cloaked ship that moves thru a dust cloud / asteroid field? It "will automatically and immediately lose the benefit of it cloak", but is it now considered de-cloaked and may fire during this turn's Attack Phase? Or is it still under cloaking restrictions? Does it automatically go invisibile again when it moves back out of the dust cloud? Or does it need to redo the Engage Cloak! special action?

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Off the current topic, but I just noticed that decloaking is a special action. Ergo, an Orion ship armed with photons or disruptors can't decloak and overload weapons to that big suprise kill shot.

Drat!

 

[Iron Domokun]

Two cases here:

It is in a dust cloud and "loses the benefit" of the cloak, but still suffers penalties, no firing.

It becomes uncloaked (either because it's crippled and lost the cloak trait or uncloak special action), then it can fire. If it's crippled it can still only fire one weapon though, like any crippled ship. So a War Eagle might be able to launch its R-torpedo before it dies.

 

[Keeper Nilbog]

I would say it gets to fire, as it has nothing in effect - such as cloak/ or having been passed over in the firing phase (ie, you can't suddenly decide it's going to fire when its cloaks knocked out, UNLESS it hasn't had a firing phase) - to stop it doing so. I maybe out of place as to where it is on the table, but them's the breaks.

 

[Rick]

Yeah, sorry Sgt G, was tired when I posted - but it is entirely possible that he got hit with the 'golden BB' via an exploding ship at the end of the movement phase! I think the Romulan ship would be able to fire in the firing phase.

 

[Flippy]

I agree with the others who say so long as it hasn't activated it gets to fire. Just remeber cloaked ships do have to activate in the firing phase... they just can't do anything.

It is in a dust cloud and "loses the benefit" of the cloak, but still suffers penalties, no firing.

I'd agree that's what the rules say as written; but as written I'm still losing all benefits when I leave the dust cloud (since the rules say when I enter I immediately and automatically lose the benefit of cloak, not "while in"). Also I think all the Romulan players would agree with me when I say the ability to declare the Disengage Cloak! is a benefit of being cloaked.

I think the sensible think to do is either assume you lose the benefits of cloak while in a dust cloud, or that entering a dust cloud causes you to stop being cloaked. Either way it could probably do with some official clarification.

 

[Rick]

Entering a dust cloud doesn't stop you being cloaked. The rules say when you enter a dust cloud you lose the benefits of the cloak; 'when you enter' is very much the same as saying 'for the duration of your ship being in the dust cloud (it starts as you enter and stops as you leave) your ship will lose the benefit of the cloak' and says nothing about dropping the cloak - I really don't think this can be read as a free 'drop cloak' SA!