Should the ISA box set change?

[lastbesthope]

I don't think Chern's box has enough White stars, you can never have enough White stars.

LBH

 

[Valen is my name]

what about too many UN-MADE white stars?

 

[Celisasu]

Remove two victories and all the fighters. Put in 10 more White Stars. Now you can have a box with 20 White Stars. What more do you need? :wink:

 

[angstpuppet]

I can see dropping one of the victories maybe replacing it with fighters of some variety. I think the ISA could really use a reinforcements box. The ISA are a major race and should have a reinforcements box. Then after that maybe the other races could eventually get one. Once all the upcoming Brakiri ships are released they could have a reinforcement box. Out of the other races I am not sure which ones could have reinforcements boxes without some more new releases of ships. Maybe the Dilgar could with a few more ships, but all of the other races need more ships.

 

[cordas]

The ISA don't have enough ships to merit a reinforcement box.... Just redo the ISA box so it contains most of the 5 ships that they have access to.... (Unless they get a shed load more hulls in 2e which I somehow doubt).

 

[captainsmirk]

The ISA already have multiple reinforcement boxes...


All the others races fleet boxes!!! :lol:


Nick

 

[Gargoyle117]

well, people who wanted to buy seconds of a type of ship can buy one individually in that case. I think the box sets should provide a core of ships to form a fleet.

for the ISA, I'd suggest

4 Nolo'tars, 4 white stars, 2 gunships, 1 carrier
4 nials and enough white star fighters for the carrier
sell the victory separately as a box set with enough fighters to make a full load (like the poseidon box set)

Chernobyl

A nice thought to add some balance, but there may not be enough whitestars. Two different ships in the fleet use the same model. I think there should be atleast 6 whitestars in the box, since they are both the Whitestar and the Whitestar 2.

After 2e, it may be a good idea to have a reinforcement box with the new ships, including the Bluestars, Nolo'tars, Sharlin varients, etc.

 

[Da Boss]

The ISA don't have enough ships to merit a reinforcement box.... Just redo the ISA box so it contains most of the 5 ships that they have access to.... (Unless they get a shed load more hulls in 2e which I somehow doubt).

Blue Star, Sharlin varient and new Minbari fighters, plus flyers I guess, all mentioned in the update in S+P

 

[angstpuppet]

For those of you that say that there are not enough ISA ships to do a Reinforcements box here are the stats on the 4 we have and then what is not in the ISA fleet box that could be used for a reinforcements box. I even put together a suggested way to do it. Also included are individual prices for the minis in the boxes and what my suggested ISA reinforcements box would cost piecemeal. For ease of use I counted each fighter base that would normally come in a 4 pack for 9.95 as costing 2.50, instead of the 2.4875 (ie 2.49) that it would cost.

Centauri Reinforcements (5 types of ships/2 varieties of fighters)
1 Dargan 9.95
2 Kutai 13.90 (2 @ 6.95)
18 Razik fighters 7.5 (3/4 @ 9.95)
18 Rutarian fighters 7.5 (3/4 @ 9.95)
1 Balvarin 14.95
2 Maximus 13.90 (2 @6.95)
2 Darkners 17.90 (2 @8.95)

total price bought seperately 85.60

Earth Reinforcements (4 types of ships/1 type of fighter)
1 Avenger 10.95
2 Oracles 17.90 (2 @ 8.95)
18 Thunderbolts 7.5 (3/4 @ 9.95)
2 Hermes 9.95
2 Olympus 29.90 (2 @ 14.95)

Total price seperately 76.20

Minbari Reinforcements (4 types of ships/0 fighters)
1 Morshin carrier 8.95
2 Troligan Armoured Cruisers 25.90 (2 @12.95) (assuming old price is the same as new price)
3 Leshath Heavy Scouts 29.85 (3@ 9.95)
6 Torotha Assault Frigates 29.85 (2 pack x 3 @ 9.95)

Total price seperately 94.55


Narn Reinforcements (5 types of ships/1 type of fighter)
2 Thentus 17.90 (2@ 8.95)
2 G’Karith 19.90 (2@ 9.95)
2 Sho’Kar 17.90 (2@ 8.95)
1 Rongoth 9.95
1 Varnic 9.95
18 Gorith fighters 7.50 (3/4 @ 9.95)

total price seperately 83.10


ISA ships that are out there and not in the Fleetbox (4 varieties of ships/2 types of fighters)
1 Whitestar Carrier 24.95
1 Whitestar Gunship 14.95
2 Nolo'Tar 19.90 (2@ 9.95)
3 Bluestar 9.95
10 Whitestar Fighters (if you still get 10 to a blister description and parts don't match up) 9.95
4 Minbari Flyers (for the Nolo'tars) 9.95


total price seperately 89.65


So the normal number is 5 types of capital ships and the average would be 4.75, an ISA reinforcements box would have 4.

The average number of different types of fighters is 1 and the ISA would have 2.

The average individual cost for minis seperately in existing Reinforcements boxes is 84.65. My proposed ISA Reinforcements box would cost 89.65 if purchased individually.

Not much difference positively or negatively for the ISA and it would seemingly fit right into the pattern.

So yes it seems the ISA might have enough vessels for a Reinforcements box set.

 

[Triggy]

Even so, I don't think anything will be happening to any of the fleet boxed sets until 2nd ed. comes about.