#### kevinknight

##### Banded Mongoose

"A cybernetic arm is designed like a robot manipulator. For human arms at TL10 and below this is a Size 6 manipulator; at TL11+ it is a Size 5 or smaller manipulator.

Costs for an arm are triple the equivalent of a robot manipulator of the same characteristics, including the cost for its Size and any increases to STR or DEX from the Manipulator Characteristics table on page 26."

On page 26, it states:

"Manipulator Size x (net increase STR) Squared x Cr100"

Also on page 26, there's the following example:

"the maximum STR of the Size 5 manipulator would be STR 18 (9 x 2 for +9) at a Cost of (Cr100 x 5 x 9 x 9) Cr40500."

Following the example and formula on page 26, the cost of a 6 point increase would be Cr100 x 5 x 6 x 6 or Cr18000. Adding in the logic from page 89, then the cost of a 6 point increase for a cyberarm should be Cr54000. However, in every example given, the size of the manipulator is ignored other than in the initial cost of the cyberarm. For example, "A TL11 STR 15 arm, a Size 5 equivalent, costs three times 5 x Cr100 + 6[squared] x Cr100 or 3 x Cr4100 equals Cr12300". So the initial cost is 5 x Cr100 x 3 or Cr1500, making the cost of the STR increase simply 6 x 6 x Cr100 x 3 or Cr10800. Additionally, when you look at the costs of the cyberarm on page 55 of the CSC, they clearly followed this line of thought for their calculations.

So, to sum this up, it appears from all the examples given that you ignore the size of the manipulator when factoring in cyberlimb STR & DEX increases. Is this correct, or are all the examples and the prices in the CSC wrong?

Thanks.