Locutus9956
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Lord David the Denied said:
Well I wouldnt go that far
Though it WAS infinitely better than River of Souls and the less said about Legend of the Rangers the better (unless you're saying something along the lines of 'burn it' )
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Well I wouldnt go that far
Though it WAS infinitely better than River of Souls and the less said about Legend of the Rangers the better (unless you're saying something along the lines of 'burn it' )kritikalfailure
Mongoose
Lorcan Nagle said:
Maybe they'll pick up on the idea of the Nike and make it our War choice.
Lord David the Denied said:
Actually my comment was meant to refer to the fact that between seasons 3 and 4 we had this major threat that would have made the Shadows look like desirable neighbours and it was never mentioned again......
...but could justifibly be taken as a slating for the movie as well
On the plus side it was better than Legend of the Rangers, but then I am heard pressed to think of any film I have seen that made me cringe so badly.
kritikalfailure said:Maybe they'll pick up on the idea of the Nike and make it our War choice.
Send us a model, and we'll consider it!
NOOOOO, don't make my marathon replacement officially a warship... well go on to be cool to Prelude.
to be honest Matt, this is a beautiful model. Seriously, would you consider stuff, as I was making my Own G'Vrahn model, but would be cool if it became cannon as A.N Other ship, problem being you might get swamped with models now ;-)
to be honest Matt, this is a beautiful model. Seriously, would you consider stuff, as I was making my Own G'Vrahn model, but would be cool if it became cannon as A.N Other ship, problem being you might get swamped with models now ;-)
Lord David the Denied
Mongoose
hiffano said:
Very mature...
dant164 said:
Everything beforehand will be - Armageddon fulfils our promise to produce just one book for CTA every year, rather than getting you to lay out for multiple smaller publications every few months. It was designed to update the game, introduce the Armageddon PL and build on the groundwork for revisions to the EA - all for just £15. That is cheaper than two Omegas!
We _could_ put everything in S&P (indeed, you will see a lot for CTA in S&P over the next few months) but then you chaps would soon be wanting us to put them all into a handy hardback - which, in effect, is what this one book a year is all about. . .
As to the greater question of producing a book that will last for little more than a year, that will be the case whatever its content - the alternative is not getting anything for CTA for what would have been over a year and a half.
What I can say is that we have always been very open when it comes to new editions, even if we could put ourselves in the position to wring out a few more sales by keeping quiet. We also actively court the opinions of players on how new editions/updates should look. I would humbly submit that this is what makes the difference between ourselves and certain other companies out there.
If that is the sort of game you want to play, pick up Armageddon - give it a try, you will find it better than you may think. If you disagree, vote with your wallet - and we won't be doing a book like this again. . .
hiffano said:
If you are happy to hand over the rights to Warner Brothers (and, I have to say, the Nike is treading on some dodgy legal ground - fanwork is great and encouraged, but as soon as you start to charge money. . .), by all means send us models/masters. We can put them up on this forum with some stats and get a vote as to whether they should go into full production. . .
msprange said:
very well put Matt. I personally have not bought armageddon, as a Narn player I don't feel I need it. I do think this kind of book should have been a cheaper paperback, but you have explained things, and I think, like us, you certainly don't want to become the new "other big company". I still say roll on Version 2. HOWEVER, I would like to see Mongoose consider more scenario books, I "think" the EA Minbari war went down well, and the Fan written Dilgar and Narn books seem to have been very well received, A small £5-£10 book of scenarios based upon the actual shadow war, the earth civil war war, the Full Dilgar war etc, would be fantastic, in my opinion.
You have a wealth of talent amongst your play base, and it would be folly to completely ignore it, some talented writers and model designers amongst others. We rock! use us!!
Martin said:
There is a lot of really, really good stuff in SFoS; A rules update, additional rules for Space Stations, Boarding Actions, Fleet Carriers, Scouts, new special actions, advanced rules for Auxillary Craft, Skin Dancing, 2 characters (John Sheridan and G'Sten). There have been some minor tweaks to the scenarios as well as adding rules for engagements in hyperspace, and more scenarios. There is also a large update of more stuff for campaigns. And an updated fleet list for all the major races as well as splitting the LoNAW fleet list into Abbai, Brakiri, Drazi and Vree (but you can see the ship/fleet updates on the on-line shipviewers some forum members (Obsidian/LBH and Burger) have produced. Certainly it is a purchase you would not regret (once you get used to the typos...).
I have recently bought Armageddon, while it has added some nice tweaks and a lot more controversy, it is very dissapointing when compared to the content of SFoS. However there was just too much added to the game to release it as piecemeal supplements the size of EM War or Dilgar. Say as an EA fleet lists, Armageddon PL, Ancients and then add the rules update on-line. I am a little disappointed with the content, but I have not played enough games to fairly judge the updated rules in yet, but in the few games I have played I have generally liked what I have seen changed (not played as Minbari yet...). It might just all be we are all acting like spoiled children after what Mongoose gave us in SFoS.
Lorcan Nagle
Mongoose
msprange said:kritikalfailure said:Maybe they'll pick up on the idea of the Nike and make it our War choice.
Send us a model, and we'll consider it!
I can get behind that!
God of Frustration said:
Well the promotional material for it does use an EA logo, which is the property of Warner Bros... Legally speaking, Mongoose have to pay for a licence in order to sell miniatures with B5 IP attached, while this is being sold with B5 IP attached without such a licence - you can see where WB may possibly get uppity. Again, legally speaking I believe it's something WB would come down on rather than Mongoose as it is use of their IP (the EA logo and indication of a B5 use) without a licence. If it was sold as a "Nike-class ship for generic space wargaming" without any mention to ACTA or B5, then I do not believe there would be any issues (I am not a lawyer, but just trying to help out here)
The easiest way around that then is to say that the Nike is in the style of Baylon 5 ACTA Earth Ships, and here's the stats compliant with B5 ACTA(then put in the legal mumbo jumbo about B5 belonging to WB and ACTA being a Mongoose product)
Don't use the B5 logo and don't publish any rules which are Mongoose' property.
Don't use the B5 logo and don't publish any rules which are Mongoose' property.
Even "in the style of" is probably too much. A single mention of B5 IP or any indication in that area is enough for WB to start proceedings, if they decided they wanted to.
The best option is to avoid using ACTA or B5 IP at all, and thus not incur any risk of anyone getting upset over it.
The best option is to avoid using ACTA or B5 IP at all, and thus not incur any risk of anyone getting upset over it.
