Rebels in Judge Dredd.

[Perturabo]

I was wondering if there were any plans to do a rebel group sourcebook for judge dredd. I know there's a criminal enterprise sourcebook, I'd like to see a book about people who are really about overthrowing the judge system to replace it with something more human.

 

[Shokker]

Rebel groups! You're walking a fine line to spending a lot of time in the cubes, Mister. Just by addressing terrorist organisations such as Total War as rebels could incriminate you as a sympathiser to the Democratic Movement and therefore condemn you to a mandatory sentence.

 

[Perturabo]

Rebel groups! You're walking a fine line to spending a lot of time in the cubes, Mister. Just by addressing terrorist organisations such as Total War as rebels could incriminate you as a sympathiser to the Democratic Movement and therefore condemn you to a mandatory sentence.

I want to play against judges, I'd never play one.

 

[havercake lad]

Rebel groups! You're walking a fine line to spending a lot of time in the cubes, Mister. Just by addressing terrorist organisations such as Total War as rebels could incriminate you as a sympathiser to the Democratic Movement and therefore condemn you to a mandatory sentence.

I want to play against judges, I'd never play one.

Campaigns of perps inside Mega City One itself would be hard to sustain given a local Judge Sector without any corruption that aided the players.
( Thats why I picked a different Mega-City as the location for a Cit D2o campaign I once ran. )
Compromise might be to run an Auxillary. Some are failed cadets, some are Judges who quit or were forced to retire for misdemenours ( including pregnancy ), some are presumably just capable citizens.
Besides tedium of driving meat waggons, researching archives etc there is the excitment of being a Cursed Earth Ranger if you fancy being a cowboy on a grav-bike !
Also there are small stations of misfit and Long Walk Judges out in the Cursed Earth which gives you options of playing a more extrovert or liberal player character Judge.

 

[Perturabo]

It's possible a few judges realize how terrible their system is for humanity and are working to change it.

 

[Shokker]

I like the notion of having a group of Judges who are Democratic sympathisers. This could make an interesting scenario, however, it would be much easier to play out as an investigating Judge rather than a 'rebel'. After all, the Judges can never be overthrown because it would stop being a Judge Dredd RPG!

 

[Nuclear Fridge Magnet]

Plus, the likely fate of 'pro-dem' Judges is a one-way ticket to Titan...

As I recall, at the end of Origins, Fargo himself told Dredd that the Justice Dept. had become a monster - which ties in with the doubts and qualms that Joe has been displaying over the years.

But then, how often do we see happy endings in the Big Meg?

 

[havercake lad]

There have been plenty of rebel Judges in Mega City One... with one or two exceptions these dissidents are Judges who think the Justice Department is too liberal !

 

[Nuclear Fridge Magnet]

There have been plenty of rebel Judges in Mega City One... with one or two exceptions these dissidents are Judges who think the Justice Department is too liberal !

True - deKlerk, who manipulated the "Chief Judge's Man" into murdering citizens, is the textbook example.

 

[Shokker]

I think we may be wandering off the point a little with talk of rebellious Judges!

Terrorist organisations and their structures, I think was the original enquiry, and a possible source book thereof. How would you compile a source book like this? Who would you include? Obviously, my favourite terrorists are Total War but who else would be worthy of inclusion?

 

[Nuclear Fridge Magnet]

Danser, the woman who provided Orlok with the bio-weapon he unleashed on the floating 'sin island', was a supporter of something called 'de-megafication' - I think. I've lost a lot of my progs.

 

[Perturabo]

AN interesting idea for the judge dredd setting would be that a faction of JUDGES were completely behind the "total war" attack, brainwashing citizens into carrying out the nukings and giving them the nukes simply to discredit democracy or reform.

Interesting things might happen if that came to light.

 

[lastbesthope]

I just thought of basically running a Magnum Force scenario in JD. that would be fun.

LBH

 

[Nuclear Fridge Magnet]

Hmm. Would your PCs be cast in the Harry Callahan role, or would they be the people carrying out "summary justice" on perps who exploit loopholes to avoid iso-cube time?

 

[Perturabo]

Danser, the woman who provided Orlok with the bio-weapon he unleashed on the floating 'sin island', was a supporter of something called 'de-megafication' - I think. I've lost a lot of my progs.

I could see that, the megacities and their systems of fascist government are bad for the earth and humaniyt, so some people might want to destroy the megacity system. Bioweapons might be a good way given the pop density making them spread like wildfire.

 

[Shokker]

I want to play against judges, I'd never play one.

Why wouldn't you want to play a Judge? There's a lot of fun to be had doling out justice to the never-ending tide of perps infesting the Big Meg you know?

 

[AndrewW]

Why wouldn't you want to play a Judge? There's a lot of fun to be had doling out justice to the never-ending tide of perps infesting the Big Meg you know?

On the other hand fun can be had working against the tyrannical rule of the judges.

 

[simonh]

One of the tropes of JD is that while the Judge's system is repressive, cruel and unfair in the end it always works out to be the only viable solution to the many problems the Mega City faces.

Many of the Judges know it's wrong, including Dredd himself, but in a city that is continuously facing existential crises that require promp and decisive action, they find themselves in a permanent state of emergency. Democracy might be possible one day, but that day is never today because here comes yet another apocalyptic threat to the City's very existence!

The tragedy of the Judges is that they are trapped into perpetuating a terrible system by the circumstances they find themselves in. A pro-democracy or anti-Judge campaign misses the fundamental point of the setting and turns it into something very different and nolonger the Mega City of the Judge Dredd comics.

Edit: At least a campaign that presents this as The Right Thing To Do.

Simon Hibbs

 

[Shokker]

One of the tropes of JD is that while the Judge's system is repressive, cruel and unfair in the end it always works out to be the only viable solution to the many problems the Mega City faces.

Many of the Judges know it's wrong, including Dredd himself, but in a city that is continuously facing existential crises that require promp and decisive action, they find themselves in a permanent state of emergency. Democracy might be possible one day, but that day is never today because here comes yet another apocalyptic threat to the City's very existence!

The tragedy of the Judges is that they are trapped into perpetuating a terrible system by the circumstances they find themselves in. A pro-democracy or anti-Judge campaign misses the fundamental point of the setting and turns it into something very different and nolonger the Mega City of the Judge Dredd comics.

Simon Hibbs

Corr Blimey Mister Hibbs, why are you not participating in my up n' coming Rules of Play game? You've hit the judicial stance of Mega-City One right on the head! Play Dredd wants you..(try to imagine a poster of someone pointing)

 

[lastbesthope]

Hmm. Would your PCs be cast in the Harry Callahan role, or would they be the people carrying out "summary justice" on perps who exploit loopholes to avoid iso-cube time?

Could be either, 2 scenarios for the price of one.

LBH