Psi-Corp ships

MustEatBrains said:
But basically the Hunter was built (or reactivated or whatever) on a human base, so there are at least some humans and crews who would go along with it, and these would be carefully selected, scanned and telepathically tuned to obey and keep quiet...
Otherwise known as: Psi Corps members ;)
 
Burger said:
I feel that it goes against the fluff and style of the Psi Corps to call in EA ships. Sure they might have the clout to do it, but it would ruin their whole master game plan.

But the bad guys always assume they can contain information. Clark's lies about his illness were exposed by Dr Jacobs; Psi Corps assumed they could get away with trading blips to the Shadows, but Bester exposed it; the EA covered up the Shadow ship on Mars, but word got out; even pictures of a Shadow ship appeared on ISN; and so on.
 
Exactly. Word always gets out. Word about the Psi Corps fleet didn't get out in the series; therefore they must have never shown it to anyone.
 
uh oh, lets not start a "whats in the series" discussion, as it only ends in tears.
 
Just enlist ships and make sure they die in the battle (or very shortly after) - telepathically tell the chief engineer to blow the engines etc....

thats the easy way as long as you don't do it very often..........and I presume they don't. Thats assuming they don't get blasted anyway or the "borrowed" ships are not the only ones going, cept maybe some nasty fighters. :)
 
Could be an interesting rule..................you can buy allied ships but once they are used in a game they are lost? maybe get a two for one deal or something :)
 
I don't think that EA needs more ships, so I'm not too worried. However, I see no problem with them using a Psi-Corp ship. It'd be a "prototype" or "special ops" or something. No big deal for the military.

They will see them soon enough during the Telepath War, am I right?*

*(I have some thoughts on the Telepath War. Based on what we learn from Crusade, I gathered the war isn't between Norms and Tepes but among the Tepes themselves. Another thread here to be sure).
 
Not I suppose all that relevant but there is no evidence in the series to suggest that the Shadow Omegas belong to Psi-Corps, in fact most indications were that they were crewed with Clark Loyalist Earthforce personnel.

Also other than its initial attack on Gideon's ship before Galen rescued him the Hunter's only operations (in the unfilmed Crusade scripts) were after the Telepath War where upon the Psi Corps no longer exists.


Nick
 
captainsmirk said:
Not I suppose all that relevant but there is no evidence in the series to suggest that the Shadow Omegas belong to Psi-Corps, in fact most indications were that they were crewed with Clark Loyalist Earthforce personnel.

But we know that both Clark and the Psi-Corps were influenced by the Shadows, and that there was some kind of scandal connection Clark to the corps before the election in which Clark was declared Vice-president, so there´s a connection.

Also other than its initial attack on Gideon's ship before Galen rescued him the Hunter's only operations (in the unfilmed Crusade scripts) were after the Telepath War where upon the Psi Corps no longer exists.

It doesn´t exist oficially; unoficially it´s alive behind the scenes with it´s own warfleet (got to love the Crusade RPG supplement 8) )
 
captainsmirk said:
Not I suppose all that relevant but there is no evidence in the series to suggest that the Shadow Omegas belong to Psi-Corps,

The Psi Corps fleet is actually Psi Corps and Earth Force Black Ops. But that's kind of a lond winded name.

If you use the ISDs the earlier ships are Psi Corps only. Many of the later ships are in the Crusade Era when the remnants of Psi Corps are in cahoots with the black ops parts of the EA that build or operate the Hunter and Shadowfuries.
 
Heck, Earth Alliance might.

Well the Shadows don't tend to fight alongside their allies. The EA, in theory, don't know that the Psi Corps have any military capability, over and above a few Black Omegas, so they are unlikely to call on the Psi Corps as allies.


I wouldn't go that far, Greg - the EA obviously do know that the Psi Corps have that capability, or at least the president did, and he had the clout to command them to engage the White Star Fleet (going with the ongoing assertation that the shadow omegas are part of the Psi Corps rather than standard EA fleet - even though IIRC the commander of the lead shadow Omega refers to himself by a military rank when he greets Ivanova, and calls it an 'Earth Alliance advanced destroyer').
So Psi Corps ships, at least in the Clark age, could be commanded by Clark.
 
Alexb83 said:
even though IIRC the commander of the lead shadow Omega refers to himself by a military rank when he greets Ivanova, and calls it an 'Earth Alliance advanced destroyer').
Well he's hardly going to say "Hi, we're with the Psi Corps, I'm a P10, prepare to die!" is he?? ;)
 
Why not? He's in a big black friggin wibbly shadow-esque ship that noone knows about, he can do what the heck he likes :)

Why would a psi-cop demean themselves by calling themselves a mere earth alliance captain? Cunning ploy, or is it just more likely that it's an EA ship, with an EA captain, which may have been built with the complicity of IPX and the Psi Corps, but is nonetheless under the control of a clandestine arm of Clark's government?

The fact remains, Clark told the ships to be there, not the Psi Corps, which at the very least indicates that in the Third Age, if you are going to call them 'Psi Corps ships' for some zany reason, then you have to give them to the EA as an asset. With an ISD of one day, at the end of which they have to be destroyed.
 
Burger said:
Alexb83 said:
even though IIRC the commander of the lead shadow Omega refers to himself by a military rank when he greets Ivanova, and calls it an 'Earth Alliance advanced destroyer').
Well he's hardly going to say "Hi, we're with the Psi Corps, I'm a P10, prepare to die!" is he?? ;)

My name is carlos P10 Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die!
 
Just because the Black Omegas are in the Psi Corps fleet list doesn't mean they were operated by a Psi Corps crew, just that they were part of the secret conspiracy within the EA that involved Clark, the Shadows and Psi Corps.
 
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