Progress on 2e

[Shadow Queen]

I wander if the ships in the Earth Minbari war book will make it useable for second edition the ships in there are cool

 

[H]

they were pretty time specific, and some of them were a tad overpowered, being as they were, desperate attempts to stem the minbari tide, but I dunno, I see no reason why not, perhaps one of the playtesters can drop you a hint

 

[Abraxas]

they were pretty time specific, and some of them were a tad overpowered, being as they were, desperate attempts to stem the minbari tide, but I dunno, I see no reason why not, perhaps one of the playtesters can drop you a hint

Or at least allude to the fact that they maybe will start considering how they might make it possibly work... :roll:

And then go away with:

"Wait till 2e." :x

I'm turing into you, hiff... :twisted:

 

[Morgoth]

I would like to see the "Red Helms" from season 5 make an appearance in 2nd edition too. They had some interesting looking ships and it was good when you saw them attack b5.

 

[Greg Smith]

The ships from the EM war aren't in 2e.

Neither are the Red Helms.

Nothing is set in stone though.

 

[Morgoth]

The ships from the EM war aren't in 2e.

Neither are the Red Helms.

Nothing is set in stone though.

Thats a real shame about the Em war, especially one in particualr...but I won't go further into that

Pity about the red helms, I always liekd the look of them and was good to see B5 get attacked as it showed different aspects of the defence system and the use of breaching pods too.

 

[Jhary]

I tried doing that when I played "Mage Knight"... and it just didn't turn out right.

Sorry, I don't want assembled and painted minis. It takes a HUGE chunk out of any kitbashing you might want to do or any distinguising details you give to your ships.

I like it JUST the way it is.

Now, if you go to plastic pieces (like Imperial ships in BFG), maybe I will like it. In fact, it will make modding easier.

I (and peobably many people here) don't want pre-assembled, pre-painted minis.

Abraxas if you don´t like plastic minis ok but before you answer for the rest of us ask us. Youre hole blah blah is rubbish because plastik mini are cheaper in the produktion then metal ones. special the Mould have then a longer standing time. and when you want to have a different model plasic is easier to work with then metal also if you know how the paint will be holding better the weight is less and the Minis don´t break so eady when you transport them.

 

[H]

I was always lead to believe that the plastic is more expensive, maybe it's the casting that is more expensive, either way, something is more expensive.

 

[emperorpenguin]

I would like to see the "Red Helms" from season 5 make an appearance in 2nd edition too. They had some interesting looking ships and it was good when you saw them attack b5.

the flash gordon bad guys! they were awful, wow did most of season 5 suck!

 

[emperorpenguin]

I was always lead to believe that the plastic is more expensive, maybe it's the casting that is more expensive, either way, something is more expensive.

plastic is cheaper in the long run than metal but because of the technology the initial set-up costs of plastic are more expensive.

 

[H]

cheers, I knew something cost more

 

[Johnny D]

Have to admit I really wouldn't be interested in prepainted models.
Might not be that great a painter, but it's all part of the hobby and I like the fact that my ships look distinctive.
That said assuming the cost would be sensible I'd love to see plain plastic ships for iconic craft like G'quann, Vorchan, Omegas and Sharlins

 

[Sindre]

Would it be worth if for the just the signature ships for each race ?

eg Primus / Vorchan
Shadow Ship / Scout
etc

That would definitely be worth it. How about only the ships that were in the show? That would make it easier for new players who have seen the show..

 

[Valen is my name]

yeah, it would make getting into the game easier and cheaper, maybe get a few with the rule books? Or if you need to build a big fleet very quickly, just buy some plastics until you can get the time to make and paint the metals.

 

[emperorpenguin]

I just want travel-proof models I can take to tournaments! Peferably not metal so airport security don't keep quizzing me over them!

 

[Abraxas]

I tried doing that when I played "Mage Knight"... and it just didn't turn out right.

Sorry, I don't want assembled and painted minis. It takes a HUGE chunk out of any kitbashing you might want to do or any distinguising details you give to your ships.

I like it JUST the way it is.

Now, if you go to plastic pieces (like Imperial ships in BFG), maybe I will like it. In fact, it will make modding easier.

I (and peobably many people here) don't want pre-assembled, pre-painted minis.

Abraxas if you don´t like plastic minis ok but before you answer for the rest of us ask us. Youre hole blah blah is rubbish because plastik mini are cheaper in the produktion then metal ones.

Read down a few posts. It is (at the moment) too expensive.

special the Mould have then a longer standing time. and when you want to have a different model plasic is easier to work with then metal also if you know how the paint will be holding better the weight is less and the Minis don´t break so eady when you transport them.

I just said I would like plastic models... but it is the pre-assembled and pre-painted aspects that someone proposed that I disagree with it. Unassembled models makes modifications easier. Makes painting easier. Allows for the adition of distinguishing charecteristics.

Unassembled models allow for more degrees of freedom.

That's all I'm saying.

 

[Balance]

I'd like to see better minis in general, which matt has said is in the works. I'd really like to see the fighters and 'core' ships (those actually seen in the show) as priorities.

 

[Sindre]

I just said I would like plastic models... but it is the pre-assembled and pre-painted aspects that someone proposed that I disagree with it. Unassembled models makes modifications easier. Makes painting easier. Allows for the adition of distinguishing charecteristics.

Unassembled models allow for more degrees of freedom.

That's all I'm saying.

I understand what youre saying, but even if they are preassembled, being plastic, they would be easier to cut apart and glue together (All praise plastic glue).

 

[Abraxas]

I just said I would like plastic models... but it is the pre-assembled and pre-painted aspects that someone proposed that I disagree with it. Unassembled models makes modifications easier. Makes painting easier. Allows for the adition of distinguishing charecteristics.

Unassembled models allow for more degrees of freedom.

That's all I'm saying.

I understand what youre saying, but even if they are preassembled, being plastic, they would be easier to cut apart and glue together (All praise plastic glue).

Imagine you have a pre-assembled Vorchan. You want to mod off the wings and attach them to a varient your working on. Chances are good you will not be able to get the whole wing without some real effort or severely damaging the piece you want. Same thing with a Primus. Say you only want the little fins... or the turrets.

On the EA side; people like adding the rotating sections from Omegas or Poseidens... and if you have to cut through plastic first to get those pieces, you run a real risk of cutting the piece you want (or possibly yourself).

The point is, with unassembled minis, varients and modifications are a thousand times easier to make because you have the whole range of individual pieces to play with.

That's all I'm saying...

 

[Sindre]

So, combining our views on it, the best thing would be unassembled plastic minis. Im not against that at all, Im just saying prepainted goes a long way towards the beginners, hence the "ships of the show" being prepainted plastic statement.