Price rise

[Right Hand of God]

When did the prices go up?

Just had a look at the on line store :shock:

£10 for the Drakh Cruiser and £10 for the blister of 3 scouts! WTF? It can't be down to detail or design, these are Drakh after all, and it can't be down to the amount of metal involved, 3 tiny scouts in no way equal 1 large cruiser.

I know MGP say they aren't a retailer but every other retailer takes their prices from them as a base

 

[Greg Smith]

It is now actually cheaper to buy from AoG.

 

[friendlyfire]

For the most part it seems that way. I only compared the EA ships and only a few of the ships were equal in value, the rest were significantly higher- $2-4US increase.

The biggest ripoff I saw was the Avenger: 9.95(AOG) versus 17.95(price)

Ouch!

 

[phoenixhawk]

The Apollo is a huge ripoff now at $20 US for one solid hunk of metal.

Good thing I have a lot of ships I wanted, because I don't think I'm getting too many more at those kinds of prices. I can understand needing to make money and rising costs of materials and all, but my income isn't rising the same as prices and if it comes to things I need or minis for fun, minis will lose each time.

Major bummer on the price increases.

Chris

 

[B5Temple]

Price increases?! What, did Games Workshop buy out Mongoose?

:shock:

I am not happy about this.

 

[Celisasu]

Some items have gone up as much as 20% too. That's not a small increase. Didn't Mongoose just do a price increase to take in account rising metal costs about a year ago? Have costs really been rising that quickly? I didn't mind the previous increase that much(well I minded but ACTA was still worth the price then) but this one has pushed the price vs. value of ACTA into the "maybe" realm where it might not be worth it. Like others it's just as well my Narn fleet is complete as I'm not sure I'll be adding other ships.

And will anyone really pay $60 for the Adira?

Now Mongoose really might have to increase the price this much. I understand that there are expenses involved and if they have no choice, they have no choice. But there's also no avoiding that as a gamer I'm most interested in getting a good(or at least fair) value for what I pay. I'm not sure that a lot of those ships(especially considering how bad shape or lacking in detail many of them tend to be) meet that standard.

 

[Atlantis]

Hm, looks like i'll be scratchbuilding my fleets then. Good job i know how to cast whitemetal.

20% increases... $60 for an Adira... not impressed.

 

[kodiak888]

Well this is sad. I understand about rising costs, but some of the hikes are a bit much. The EA Avenger is $18.00? Really? I'm holding one right now, and I wouldn't ever pay that much for it. Wasn't it $10.00 before? 80% Increase for an model I could've scratch built in the first place...


I got cold GW shudders when I looked around. Again, I know it's a business, but a large, unannounced price hike right before 2e comes out seems kinda like a low blow (see good business model, but hurts customer feelings). I hope they put out some new, good box set deals, because my money's going elsewhere for now.

 

[JayRaider]

Some of the prices increases are GW'ish outragous! :x :evil:

Lets be honest! That price for the Drakh Scouts! There just not worth it! :x
Its as simple as that.
I'll be one of the first to hit the road if Mongoose start to get rip-offish! :shock:

 

[MustEatBrains]

I know that every price increase always brings up comparisons to GW, but I think that one of the things that still makes MGP stand apart from the evil empire is that you don´t need as many miniatures for the game.

But still, I´ve ordered a couple of bits and pieces for a scratch-built starbase a while ago, and I was surprised how much that cost me - the good Euro exchange rate saved my project (whenever Mongoose gets delivered the parts from their foundry I will actually be able to finish it :? ).

Maybe, on the long run, MGP should really look into changing the material - metal´s not going to get cheaper anytime soon. But that again would mean increased investions into new production techniques, which again would mean higher prices - not what I´d call a win-win situation...

 

[Right Hand of God]

they will have to invest in making new molds for some of the older scuplts that are well past it now, some why not go the whole hog.

There are other companies out there producing space ships with far greater detail and at far less cost. ok they are not B5 but are we paying for the name or the model?

 

[MustEatBrains]

they will have to invest in making new molds for some of the older scuplts that are well past it now, some why not go the whole hog.

There are other companies out there producing space ships with far greater detail and at far less cost. ok they are not B5 but are we paying for the name or the model?

They ARE replacing the moulds, they just can´t do them all at once :wink:

It´s right that some smaller companies are doing pretty good ships at reasonable prices, but they don´t produce the sheer quantities MGP does. Take Brigademodels for example, they are doing some really nice miniatures, but the guys running it do that in their spare time while not occuoied with their real life (or somethin like that IIRC). They don´t have to invest as much, and when they buy new casting material, that will last far longer, so they won´t have to buy the more expensive stuff for a hwile before they run out of material

 

[eek]

To be fair though, it's still MUCH cheaper to play than GW's games. I mean you're, what, £30 for a starter set (okay, £35 for the two new books) and another £50 for a fleet... say £100 to get going if you buy a few more ships, and you've got far more gaming potential in that than if you only had £100 of GW stuff, and that's if you decide to get minis rather than just using counters. You'd only get a starter set, codex and battleforce at GW, restricting you to far smaller games.

Yes, it's bad, but it ain't that bad.

 

[Da Boss]

To be fair though, it's still MUCH cheaper to play than GW's games. I mean you're, what, £30 for a starter set (okay, £35 for the two new books) and another £50 for a fleet... say £100 to get going if you buy a few more ships, and you've got far more gaming potential in that than if you only had £100 of GW stuff, and that's if you decide to get minis rather than just using counters. You'd only get a starter set, codex and battleforce at GW, restricting you to far smaller games.

Yes, it's bad, but it ain't that bad.

It would be better to compare BFG with ACTA rather than 40K?

£25 for rule book with large proportion of ships, £18 for the Armada expansion book (it is nice and opens up new fleets - Tryanid/Necron/Tau/ Space Marine)
Ships are about £6-£8 for 3 Escorts and £6-8 for Cruisers - which is IMHO good, Battleships however are the expensive ones - £12-20 .

very little difference really..............I still buy nice stuff from both - but play ACTA more at present.

Roll on 2nd Ed

 

[Iain McGhee]

The individual ships may have increased in price (glad I've got the bulk of my fleets already, just need to replace some of the EA ships when the new casts appear and add a relatively small amount of the new stuff. STC :wink: ) but the cost of the fleet boxes hasn't. Wonder if this will change when the new box sets for 2e are released ?

 

[eek]

It would be better to compare BFG with ACTA rather than 40K?

£25 for rule book with large proportion of ships, £18 for the Armada expansion book (it is nice and opens up new fleets - Tryanid/Necron/Tau/ Space Marine)
Ships are about £6-£8 for 3 Escorts and £6-8 for Cruisers - which is IMHO good, Battleships however are the expensive ones - £12-20 .

very little difference really..............I still buy nice stuff from both - but play ACTA more at present.

Roll on 2nd Ed

Yeah, that would probably be a better comparison. But I don't know the first thing about BFG, so I stuck to what I did know.

 

[hegemon]

well from what i remember of the old prices, the price in £'s hasn't changed, if it has then not by much, so i think the new $ price represents the new exchange rate of the $ to the £, i think their just squeezing "pennies" from the doller, am I right Matt?

 

[Jhary]

I think now not twice or three times before i buy any Model. I just say to expensive. The jump by the Z´Tak from 29$ to 39.95$ is to mutch. Special after the old knewn problem with vree ships and fitting parts.

 

[Iain McGhee]

well from what i remember of the old prices, the price in £'s hasn't changed, if it has then not by much, so i think the new $ price represents the new exchange rate of the $ to the £, i think their just squeezing "pennies" from the doller, am I right Matt?

Looking at the EA ships most are about £1 or £1.50 more but the Sagittarius at least has jumped from £5 (I think) to £9. But then it is a largish model and I was surprised at the size when I got mine. Think a couple of others have jumped up too, not checked the aliens either. Still fairly priced I'd say given the price of most manufacturer's stuff these days and there's still some on-line shops (Dancing Dryad comes to mind) which have discounted ships anyway.

 

[Joe_Dracos]

Well to put my two cents in....

I don't think that it is uncalled for to raise the prices. Especially since we've all bin on MGP for lousy models. Alot of the molds that they are using are AoG molds. My Artemis and all my Oracles have AoG stamps on them. Also with the new rules set and a large portion of models to be reproduced and redone is going to cost them some cash. The wide veriety of models also hurts there profit margins. unlike BFG two different EA fleets can be drastically different. Some models will not sell as well as others. Having lots of stock that does not move as well as others will be costly for the company.

I am not outraged by the increase. I accept it as a part of life.