Physical Predator Feat

[Walrus]

Could anyone tell me where to find tthis feat or what it does. As far as I am aware it appears twice, once in Tales of the Black Kingdom p35 under the NPC Alam'enshadar and also Shadizar, City of Wickedness Book 3 p8.

Please help
Walrus

 

[Supplement Four]

Hmm. There's a master Feat list in the Player's Guide, and no such Feat is listed.

Predator's Eye is in both Hyboria's Fallen and Shadizar.

Predatory Reputation is in Shadizar.



EDIT: At first, I thought it might be listed under the Thief class description, but no love there, either.

 

[VincentDarlage]

Physical Predator [General]
You use brute force to get your desires satisfied.
Prerequisites: Str 13+ or Con 13+
Benefits: The character can substitute his Strength or Constitution modifier (whichever is higher) for her Charisma modifier when making Intimidate checks.

 

[Supplement Four]

Physical Predator [General]
You use brute force to get your desires satisfied.
Prerequisites: Str 13+ or Con 13+
Benefits: The character can substitute his Strength or Constitution modifier (whichever is higher) for her Charisma modifier when making Intimidate checks.

I've got two questions for you, Vincent.

1 - Was this Feat left out of the game as an oversight, or was it cut for a reason?

2 - How does this mesh with the optional Intimidate rules you have in the Fiercest book? Should the Feat be expanded to included INT, DEX, and WIS? Or, is that a separate Feat, exactly like the one above, but using different alternatives?

 

[VincentDarlage]

1. I don't know. I put it in the Shadizar boxed set. The editors cut it for reasons they didn't share with me.

2. It doesn't mesh at all with the optional Intimidate rules I have in the Fiercest book. It was edited from the final Shadizar product, so when I wrote Fiercest (which was after I wrote Shadizar), the feat didn't officially exist.

 

[Supplement Four]

2. It doesn't mesh at all with the optional Intimidate rules I have in the Fiercest book. It was edited from the final Shadizar product, so when I wrote Fiercest (which was after I wrote Shadizar), the feat didn't officially exist.

Hmm...I kinda like the Feat version...

But, then again, would a player blow a Feat on that?

Dunno. Thinking.

 

[strategos14]

Doubt it supp four. My players have used Fiercest's optional intimidate rules however, which I feel makes great sense.

 

[Supplement Four]

Doubt it supp four. My players have used Fiercest's optional intimidate rules however, which I feel makes great sense.

I'm worried that those rules boil down to letting the player use his PC's best stat to intimidate.

What I've done so far is make the optional rule a trained skill, where as the Intimidate with CHR doesn't require training. They way, instead of defaulting to their best stat for Intimidation, they have to use at least one skill point in an option to use it--precious resources.

 

[strategos14]

That's a good idea actually. The last player to use that option in a game did that at character creation I think. Meaning he stated that the ranks he put into intimidate were for his int based intimidate. So he didn't actually have ranks in the original chr base one. I allowed it.

 

[Walrus]

Hi there

Many thanks for the prompt and full replies and also for stopping my thought that I was just an idiot and had missed something really obvious.

I do like the idea of using skill points to buy the Intimidate by ability skill, however there is a similar feat in "Pathfinder" (Hope I don't touch any raw nerves) that allows the player to simply add the character STR to the skill Intimidate as well as CHA. Slightly overpowered but since a large proportion of high STR fighter types consider CHA to be a fairly unimportant attribute it does allow them to get a reasonable Intimidate skill.

Interested in others thoughts

Walrus

 

[Supplement Four]

Interested in others thoughts

Depends on how you generate stats. In my game, a fighter type is somewhat likely to have CHA as one of his higher stats. If you use straight arrange-to-taste, then, yes, it's probably one of the lower stats for fighters.