New fighters in actual games
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Sulfurdown
Mongoose
Maybe this isn't the best thread but close enough. I ran into a question in my last game about fighter dogfights. The rules state that you get a +1 to your dogfight roll for each additional fighter in base contact with the target fighter. The question rose of how they engage.
Say I have to move first and move all of my fighters (6 Delta-V) keeping in base contact with each other. My opponent moves later, can he pick off one flight at a time by moving two or three flights into contact with a single Delta-V, or are all the D-V considered to be in the dogfight?
Similarly, say he moves a single fighter and manages to put it in base contact with two of my flights, are both of my flights tied up in the dogfight?
What happens if I have the 6 flights about 1/4" apart and he puts 5 flights wedged in between/in contact with all my flights, does that mean that it becomes a giant furball where all fighters are considered to be in one?
Say I have to move first and move all of my fighters (6 Delta-V) keeping in base contact with each other. My opponent moves later, can he pick off one flight at a time by moving two or three flights into contact with a single Delta-V, or are all the D-V considered to be in the dogfight?
Similarly, say he moves a single fighter and manages to put it in base contact with two of my flights, are both of my flights tied up in the dogfight?
What happens if I have the 6 flights about 1/4" apart and he puts 5 flights wedged in between/in contact with all my flights, does that mean that it becomes a giant furball where all fighters are considered to be in one?
Point 1 he can pick em off one at a time. A dogfight is only happening when each fighter is in vbase to base contact with an enemy ship
point 2, yes, both your ships are tied in a dogfight with one nial.
Point 3, eep! but um, yes, Big furball of a fight, would be a pain to sort out i suppose.
point 2, yes, both your ships are tied in a dogfight with one nial.
Point 3, eep! but um, yes, Big furball of a fight, would be a pain to sort out i suppose.
Locutus9956
Mongoose
as hiff says:
1) your only engaged if your touching an enemy fighter, otherwise youre not in the fight at all.
2) Yes its specifcally clarified in armageddon that you can move into contact with multiple flights and engage them both.
3) yes if theyre all in contact with an enemy in an alternating chain like that theyn techically theyre all engaged in a gigantic dogfight if you want to avoid this simply spread your fighters out a little
There is one exception to the above incidentally, namely Dilgar thorun dartfighters can engage in a dogfight by getting withing 2" of an engaged flight..... they can really swamp fighters rather well.....
1) your only engaged if your touching an enemy fighter, otherwise youre not in the fight at all.
2) Yes its specifcally clarified in armageddon that you can move into contact with multiple flights and engage them both.
3) yes if theyre all in contact with an enemy in an alternating chain like that theyn techically theyre all engaged in a gigantic dogfight if you want to avoid this simply spread your fighters out a little
There is one exception to the above incidentally, namely Dilgar thorun dartfighters can engage in a dogfight by getting withing 2" of an engaged flight..... they can really swamp fighters rather well.....
Sulfurdown
Mongoose
Well, that drastically changes how a lot of battles went in the past. We had played under the assumtion that you count out how many fighters are in contact to a furball, not just how many were contacting the enemy.
I have found the new fighter rules to actually give them teeth, if used correctly.
I usually play Minbari so have those special considerations to think about but the new dilemma can be do you fire at ships that have already fired at you this turn to drop them for next turn, or do you fire at the ships that haven't fired yet?
I think the new rules create good new dynamic, and can effect the descion of what to shoot at.
The ability of Fighters to chew up interceptors helps a lot (when not playing as the minbos).
And generally, the fact that they can shoot first gives them some offensive punch.
The issue with fighters like all ships is tactics and posiitioning--keep fighters toghter, only present limited abiulities to fire at them, use thier sheer numbr to your advantage. IF possible present the opponent with the choice--shot at a cap ship or shoot at a fighter? From experience it can be a dillemma--Should you fire your fusion cannons at pesky fighters that already hit you this turn and will do it again next turn, or try to take hit that capital ship that is lighted up and will hit you this turn? I will often hit the capital ship (dependign ont he situation), but at the least, the fighters can provide some cover for the cap ships.
I usually play Minbari so have those special considerations to think about but the new dilemma can be do you fire at ships that have already fired at you this turn to drop them for next turn, or do you fire at the ships that haven't fired yet?
I think the new rules create good new dynamic, and can effect the descion of what to shoot at.
The ability of Fighters to chew up interceptors helps a lot (when not playing as the minbos).
And generally, the fact that they can shoot first gives them some offensive punch.
The issue with fighters like all ships is tactics and posiitioning--keep fighters toghter, only present limited abiulities to fire at them, use thier sheer numbr to your advantage. IF possible present the opponent with the choice--shot at a cap ship or shoot at a fighter? From experience it can be a dillemma--Should you fire your fusion cannons at pesky fighters that already hit you this turn and will do it again next turn, or try to take hit that capital ship that is lighted up and will hit you this turn? I will often hit the capital ship (dependign ont he situation), but at the least, the fighters can provide some cover for the cap ships.
