I believe at 2023’s State of Mongoose, it was mentioned that there was a new core rule book in the works. Is this still the case? Currently holding out on buying the current 2022 rulebook. I’m currently waiting for Pioneer, is that likely to have its own rules due to the setting?
New Core Rulebook?
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agentwigggles
Cosmic Mongoose
Considering Geir is working on VHB update, it seems like Pioneer is on hold in some fashion.
Limpin Legin
Emperor Mongoose
Isn't Pioneer the same kind of thing as 2300AD, anyway? (Except one title is grammatically a cardinal and the other a noun.)
agentwigggles
Cosmic Mongoose
Pioneer is a very hard sci fi, near future space rpg using Traveller system. Matt wanted no combat in it. The problems are social and engineering.
Like 2070s or something.
Like 2070s or something.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Melon Muskrat and the Stans of Mars
Geir
Emperor Mongoose
That's the thing, isn't it?
It's hard to look at the near future without specifically looking at SpaceX or using names and technologies currently under development (Blue Origin, Rocket Lab, maybe Stokes, and then the dozens of once-launched, half-built, mostly exploded, and animation-only companies out there - Notice I didn't mention Boing or LockMart though I still own shares in both - well the F35 line is still going strong...)
But the thing needs to have a shelf-life of more than a few years, and I was looking at the 2033 window as a possible Mars race, which could be right and it could be wrong, but either way, it's less than a decade away.
A decade ago, we'd be talking about all these asteroid mining companies and we see how that went... so it is difficult to make predictions, especially about the future... cloudy, it is.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Alternate history.
It's like psychohistory, you can foresee trends, but to ensure that they occur, manipulation of events and propaganda, or marketing, would be required.
It's like psychohistory, you can foresee trends, but to ensure that they occur, manipulation of events and propaganda, or marketing, would be required.
EVENTUALLY they will do another update, but that is several years away according to what Matt recently said. And the intention is that said rulebooks would remain compatible, so the changes will be adding errata, updating formating, that sort of thing. If there is a major rules change for some reason, that information will be provided as a free PDF so that you don't have to buy the new book to get it.
There's no particular reason to not get the current rulebook unless you want to wait until 2027 or something. That was the somewhat facetious date Matt gave recently as a version of "at some point, no current plans".
So is there a chance Pioneer doesn’t happen because it’s not set too close? Is the likelihood of a release next year quite low?
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I think he’s talking about pioneer the new setting book like 2300.
After Sky Raiders they’ll have you do a dual sector book Foreven and Far Frontiers
Terry Mixon
Emperor Mongoose
With the FFW running all across it, they really should.
FFW runs over the Spinward marches how does it affect Foreven and Far Frontiers?
Terry Mixon
Emperor Mongoose
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I believe the fleets will do so transiting of Foreven. If I'm wrong, I still stand by my sentiments.
MasterGwydion
Emperor Mongoose
How else do you get to the Five Sisters from Zhodani Space? Most of Zhodani Space is spinward and coreward of the Five Sisters.
Terry Mixon
Emperor Mongoose
Through Foreven, which is where my thinking came from.
Terry Mixon
Emperor Mongoose
Who knows? It would be a way to flank the organized defenses.
Geir
Emperor Mongoose
Probably not a fleet, but commerce raiders. Of course that depends on what's actually out there and possibly in the way.
I did sneak in my intentionally incomplete version of Foreven, but I don't think it should be officially developed. For everyone who wants certainty, someone else wants to do their own thing. (But if I was going to do my own thing, I'd probably just do my own universe and mess with the rules a bit).
