Muster out with Battle Dress?
- Thread starter Chuckhazard
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Of course, Battledress is technically a powered vehicle and would IMHO require an operator's license at least on most planets (having the skill should provide this perk, however).
You could require that the player has to pass a local exoskeleton operator's test before being allowed to drive it around outside the starport (though to be fair, you should require the same of Drive, Flyer etc if you're going to do this), though this is best kept in reserve for overly bureacratic planets.
Back to the cost issue; I only just realised that Mongoose has jacked up the price considerably over previous editions. Used to be in the Cr200,000-300,000 range, with Combat Armour being much cheaper as well.
You could require that the player has to pass a local exoskeleton operator's test before being allowed to drive it around outside the starport (though to be fair, you should require the same of Drive, Flyer etc if you're going to do this), though this is best kept in reserve for overly bureacratic planets.
Back to the cost issue; I only just realised that Mongoose has jacked up the price considerably over previous editions. Used to be in the Cr200,000-300,000 range, with Combat Armour being much cheaper as well.
justacaveman
Mongoose
Rust said:
Just a reputation?
You did say "Less" silly. :lol:
Just a reputation?
You did say "Less" silly. :lol:
superc0ntra
Mongoose
I think the GM can solve this by being a bit creative. It's not like a player can walk about in BD without drawing attention to himself and the police would probably stop and question him as soon as he sets foot outdoors. I the PC the proceeds to disobey the cops they probably have some SWAT team or even an option to call in the military or even imperial forces as there must be some kind of cooperation between the empire and the various worlds.
superc0ntra said:
Just police?-) Army is probably called in if somebody starts running around with such big military kit...You don't go running around in bars wearing battle dress! (or combat dress for that matter. Or combat vechile. And squad of troopers carrying PGMP's is going to attract military attention as well). They aren't worn just out of fun...So when they are on somebody he expects to need it. And that kinda draws attention to him...
Then again police would be very interested as well if somebody starts walking around with ACR's, grenade launchers and whatnot.
So atleast in my games where I want to keep some sensibility best you generally carry is what you can easily conceal. So mainly pistols. Rest are kept somewhere hidden until needed.
Character's can't go running around armed to teeth
And even if they have license to own PGMP or battledress they are going to need to have REALLY good explanation why they would be carrying them in public to not be stopped by police forces and have those items confisticated...
AndrewW
Emperor Mongoose
tneva82 said:Then again police would be very interested as well if somebody starts walking around with ACR's, grenade launchers and whatnot.
So atleast in my games where I want to keep some sensibility best you generally carry is what you can easily conceal. So mainly pistols. Rest are kept somewhere hidden until needed.
Character's can't go running around armed to teeth
That will tend to vary though depending on law level.
AndrewW said:tneva82 said:Then again police would be very interested as well if somebody starts walking around with ACR's, grenade launchers and whatnot.
So atleast in my games where I want to keep some sensibility best you generally carry is what you can easily conceal. So mainly pistols. Rest are kept somewhere hidden until needed.
Character's can't go running around armed to teeth
That will tend to vary though depending on law level.
I doubt law level is going to change all that much what you can publicly carry. Own yes but even on low law level planet officials are bound to take notice if people start to carry military weapons around. That's just BEGGING for mass murder events.
Law levels regarding weapons vary in our world as well but haven't heard of place where there exists law and where you can carry around grenade launchers and whatnot.
This may well be true, but there are not that many countries apart fromDFW said:
the USA where one could do it. In more than 90 % of all countries there
would be a swift and unfriendly reaction by law enforcement personnel,
and in many of those countries the situation could become potentially le-
thal for the owner of the assault rifle (e.g. carelessly point the gun to-
wards a police officer and get hit by a salvo from a submachine gun).
The example USA can therefore only be the example for an exception
from the standard situation, not for the average reaction of police to
people who openly carry comparatively heavy weapons.
Besides, I know an amateur astronomer from the USA who almost got
shot by the police because someone mistook his telescope for a rocket
launcher (!), called the police and told them that there was a terrorist,
and the response was an entire SWAT team, perfectly willing to elimi-
nate the "threat" and quite unbelieving that the strange tube there in
the dark was a harmless Schmidt-Cassegrain.
Sorry, but I am not interested in meta-discussions about ongoing dis-DFW said:
cussions, they are just a waste of time and electrons.
The question was if and how law enforcement would react to someone
walking around with military gear, and the great majority of real world
examples shows that law enforcement would react, and not approving-
ly.
So, unless a Traveller planet has exceptional laws, like the real world
USA does, or an unusual political situation, like for example the real
world Somalia, battle dress and heavy weapons would be likely to cau-
se problems with law enforcement personnel.
kristof65 said:
EXACTLY
Law Level 9 - No weapons outside home (probably the LL in UK and most of EU)
Law Level 3 - Machine Guns, Automatic Weapons prohibited. You can carry anything less than that. (LL in parts of U.S.)
I think it is hard to imagine this level of freedom when living under a gov't that prohibits self defense.
kristof65 said:
To define what you can _own_?
There's difference between owning it and carrying it.
I could own gun(well technically not yet but I could apply for license to it and probably get it) but I would be in trouble if I would carry it around publicly.
Guess we need 2 law level codes then...One to define what you can own and one to define what you can carry around for those 0.000001% places where you can carry around military kit.
tneva82 said:
As you can see, the LL's in Traveller define what you can own and carry. It's always been this way since the beginning of the game. That's why "Travellers" check the local planetary LL before leaving the starport to explore the planet. To see what they can legally CARRY. See UWP.
tneva82 said:
Actually if you look at say, the Jewell subsector, 26% of the planets have a LL of 3 or less. Quite a bit different than your 0.000001%. If you run a game let your players know that the listed LL isn't in fact the actual LL.
tneva82 said:
Not the way I interpret the Traveller rules:
From Classic Traveller Book 3
emphasis mine
From MGT
I think we can agree that the Law Level code as defined in the Traveller rules is really too simplistic. FREX, the US is fairly relaxed on Guns, registering a LL of 2-4, but for drugs it's much more restrictive, probaly an 8 or 9. A lot of european countries are much more restrictive on guns, but much more relaxed about drugs.
Oh, and BTW - Alaska and Texas alone count for nearly 2% of the world's surface area, so the 0.0000001 you define is quite low.
