minbari
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That is a rather vague question. What fleet did you use and what compositions did you and your opponent use?
You need to field at least two scouts when fighting the Minbari, in my opinion. More ships in general help as well as it increases your chances of beating their stealth.
Other info can be had with some more details on your part.
You need to field at least two scouts when fighting the Minbari, in my opinion. More ships in general help as well as it increases your chances of beating their stealth.
Other info can be had with some more details on your part.
Hmm well first of all thats not a 4 point battle fleet (only 3pts battle) - did you mean that or did you mean a 4 ship battle fleet?
Tips - get in close - remember to fire at as many ships as you can - even if its only a couple of dice - its the oppoiste of normal - ie concetrate to kill a ship - can't do that with a Minbari fleet - at least not until your crits or cripling knock out its stealth - then pile on the hurt.
the Explorer is a good choice durable and gets you a scout, you need more little ships to let your Omega / Hyperion have a chance with its beam
not an EA player but maybe:
Apollo Strike cruiser (1st pt battle)
4 Chronos Frigates (2nd pt)
Delphi or Explorerer and Hyperion (3rd Pt)
Omega (4th pt)
but am sure proper EA players will give you a better selection - right guys?
or could always go with a Victory
Tips - get in close - remember to fire at as many ships as you can - even if its only a couple of dice - its the oppoiste of normal - ie concetrate to kill a ship - can't do that with a Minbari fleet - at least not until your crits or cripling knock out its stealth - then pile on the hurt.
the Explorer is a good choice durable and gets you a scout, you need more little ships to let your Omega / Hyperion have a chance with its beam
not an EA player but maybe:
Apollo Strike cruiser (1st pt battle)
4 Chronos Frigates (2nd pt)
Delphi or Explorerer and Hyperion (3rd Pt)
Omega (4th pt)
but am sure proper EA players will give you a better selection - right guys?
or could always go with a Victory
GhostRecon
Mongoose
Would help if we knew what your opponent used, as well
If its a 4 point battle...
4 Chronos
2 Explorer/Delphi (I prefer Delphi because they don't have the 36 inch scout restriction and stealth is spiffy, but the Explorer is pretty hard to kill)
Any combination of two Marathons and/or Apollos, though personally I'd go with two Marathons (I prefer the Marathons because its beam weapon is good when you can get it to hit, though I usually roll atrociously, and its tougher)
4 Chronos gives you a good amount of sinks for boresight shots, and they're not so bad themselves, and between them and the 2 Delphi/Explorer, you should be able to break stealth nicely.
I don't recommend an Omega, its lumbering, and against Minbari you need to be able to get as many boresight shots as possible, what with boresights being the primary weapon of Crusade EA.
If its a 4 point battle...
4 Chronos
2 Explorer/Delphi (I prefer Delphi because they don't have the 36 inch scout restriction and stealth is spiffy, but the Explorer is pretty hard to kill)
Any combination of two Marathons and/or Apollos, though personally I'd go with two Marathons (I prefer the Marathons because its beam weapon is good when you can get it to hit, though I usually roll atrociously, and its tougher)
4 Chronos gives you a good amount of sinks for boresight shots, and they're not so bad themselves, and between them and the 2 Delphi/Explorer, you should be able to break stealth nicely.
I don't recommend an Omega, its lumbering, and against Minbari you need to be able to get as many boresight shots as possible, what with boresights being the primary weapon of Crusade EA.
your fleet looks quite good for fighting minbari. although if it is one more battle point as suggested add in some chronos and another scout.
the explorers are the best scouts here as stealth against minbari can go poof as soon as a leshath looks at you whereas with minbari weapons hitting on 4+ anyway the explorer doesnt lose you anything but does come with a huge damage track, 6 fighters & a command bonus.
the chronos as suggested give you plenty of init sinks and also dont care which arc the minbos get, plus are actually quite manouvrable themselves able to turn almost as fast as a tigara or teshlan.
i quite like the apollo for crit seeking however changing it for another omega might not be a bad idea due to the omegas higher toughness and better thresholds.
it does depend what is being thrown at you however as well because they can go brawling troligans with high hull, or sit back and shoot tinashis/teshlans.
overall my 4pt battle fleet for facing minbari would probably be:
2 omegas
2 explorers
4 chronos
which also gives you 20 fighters to throw at him.
the explorers are the best scouts here as stealth against minbari can go poof as soon as a leshath looks at you whereas with minbari weapons hitting on 4+ anyway the explorer doesnt lose you anything but does come with a huge damage track, 6 fighters & a command bonus.
the chronos as suggested give you plenty of init sinks and also dont care which arc the minbos get, plus are actually quite manouvrable themselves able to turn almost as fast as a tigara or teshlan.
i quite like the apollo for crit seeking however changing it for another omega might not be a bad idea due to the omegas higher toughness and better thresholds.
it does depend what is being thrown at you however as well because they can go brawling troligans with high hull, or sit back and shoot tinashis/teshlans.
overall my 4pt battle fleet for facing minbari would probably be:
2 omegas
2 explorers
4 chronos
which also gives you 20 fighters to throw at him.
dag'karlove
Mongoose
Narn. Narn are the Greatest fleet out there to kill off those pesky minbarri followed closely By Gaim and shadows. David an'lashok Wont Bring His precious Boneheads against My Narn as he knows ill wipe the floor with him. As for EA Id Spend a point on scouts 2 on marathons and prolly one on Chronos.
EDFDarkAngel1
Mongoose
When fighting Minbari, I typically have my weaker ships hit them first. As soon as I can get my scout to drop the stealth on one of the ships and hit it with another ship, I fire my big gun at it. It can do alot of damage to a Minbari ship in just one hit.
I don't have a lot of luck fighting them, though. I hate Stealth.
Dark Angel
I don't have a lot of luck fighting them, though. I hate Stealth.
Dark Angel
David Anla Shok'
Mongoose
dag'karlove said:
Right. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. In answer to the original question all I can add is that the Minbari composition and tactics will determine your proper course of action. Some Minbari players will try to stand off and fry you for as long as they can. Others will commit a couple of ships to fry cook duty and send the rest in to mix it up with you.
The key to beating Minbari is to reduce their stealth. This can be done several ways:
Also using lots of smalle ships rather than a few big ones will give you more chances to break stealth. The stealth mechanic is very much "all or nothing" but using more small ships reduces this.
- Get in close than 8"
Use scouts
Use fighters to reduce stealth by getting a "hit"
Also using lots of smalle ships rather than a few big ones will give you more chances to break stealth. The stealth mechanic is very much "all or nothing" but using more small ships reduces this.
chainmailler
Mongoose
I think that it would because now you have just as many smaller ships to use as fillers for all of the enemy ships.
Lord David the Denied
Mongoose
BuShips said:
Problem is, your smaller ships are fairly naff. The Torotha frigate got a bit of a boost in 2nd ed, but you're very short of low-level choices in the Minbari fleet.
David Anla Shok'
Mongoose
Lord David the Denied said:
I'd not say so. Their raid level scout is arguably the best in the game and not exactly toothless. The weapon ranges on the Ashinta, Teshlan, and Tigara (all raid level) makes them a bit difficult to use but can be nonetheless. Hull 5 makes them a bit fragile but all are nasty at knife fighting range. Especially with a good Nial escort. The Torotha, in squadrons, can be downright nasty.
Well, I may experiment with using massed Torothas (with Wind Sword crews, lol). While I'm new at this game, the fast speed of the Torotha might allow for an early intercept and maybe place a delay at enemy forces penetrating to close range. The fun of course is trying out ideas to see what works. I think I'm going to love this game. 
David Anla Shok'
Mongoose
BuShips said:Well, I may experiment with using massed Torothas (with Wind Sword crews, lol). While I'm new at this game, the fast speed of the Torotha might allow for an early intercept and maybe place a delay at enemy forces penetrating to close range. The fun of course is trying out ideas to see what works. I think I'm going to love this game.
Try a couple of two or three ship squadrons popping out of hyperspace and mixing it up with the bad guys. Very entertaining. Lately I've played my fleets without using hyperspace ambush just to try out different variants. Kind of hard braving emine fire with some of these ships. Hull 4 doesn't last long.
