Li Halan Peregrine Heavy Fighters, do they look wrong?

[lastbesthope]

Hi all,

This is a question for anyone who has bought a Li Halan fleet set or some of the Peregrine Heavy Fighters.

I it just me or do the minis for these not look like the pictures on the website?

LBH
(Hoping it's not the start of the slippery slope into complete insanity)

 

[godsgopher]

Humm... While its entirely possibly you have cracked under intense pressure. I was examining the fleet box picture and half the fighters shown on the cover are 20% smaller than the other four. However the design seems exactly the same. I had original assumed these were the light fighters. Sadly the mini's have not arrived in America yet so I can not confirm or deny your worst fears. So until they do here is what I want you to do....

Eat two oranges for Vitamin C, and 2 two shots of Vodka every hour until the fighters look just fine.

-Dr. Godsgopher

 

[MongooseMatt]

Hi all,

This is a question for anyone who has bought a Li Halan fleet set or some of the Peregrine Heavy Fighters.

I it just me or do the minis for these not look like the pictures on the website?

You have good eyes

We did indeed change the design of the Li Halan Peregrines in the 11th hour. The new designs will be on the web site this week, and all fighters shipping will be of this new variety.

 

[godsgopher]

You may stop the hourly shots of Vodka, an answer seems to have materialized.

Any chance of getting a redesign on the Li'Halan cruiser as well?

 

[McKickaha]

Any chance of getting a redesign on the Li'Halan cruiser as well?

What don't you like about the cruiser then. I think it fits in fine with the rest of the fleet and scales well.

 

[H]

You may stop the hourly shots of Vodka, an answer seems to have materialized.

Any chance of getting a redesign on the Li'Halan cruiser as well?

! asking for redesigns already? some people are never satisfied

 

[godsgopher]

wow, you really know you said something with some "sting" when your comment provokes a Lesser and a Greater Mongoose

Here is my Issue with the Li Halan Cruiser, and I do wish to point out that its only this ship I'm not 100% satisfied with. McKickaha is correct it does "fit in" with the fleets over all look of Li Halan, which is exactly the problem. it fits in too well. Its just an oversize bloated arrowhead design. Now I think this works very well on the smaller ships, and I defiantly like the Two Hull design of the Destroyer. But the cruiser looks like a cheap knock off of the Romulan Dreadnought from Starfleet Battles, right down to the "warp nessels".

Now No doubt some observant soul out there is going to say to me, "If you don't like it, your not required to buy it" however I am buying a Li Halan fleet, and obviously am not going to be happy going cruiser'less. Now Master Hiff is correct as players were never satisfied. But this design has bothered me ever since it was posted, and I would like to know if anyone else feels the same. If they do, lets "Do" something about it before Mongoose produces so many of the things they can't take a step back. However if I'm in big minority here, Im more than willing to zip my lips and hold my peace....and yes even buy one of the darn ugly things

And because a wise man once told me "Don't complain about something unless you have a solution" What about flying wing design? It retains the arrow feature, but keeps away the "warp nessel" look. and it adds verity to the Li Halan style, something it NEEDS

 

[Burger]

I would like to know if anyone else feels the same. If they do, lets "Do" something about it before Mongoose produces so many of the things they can't take a step back.

I suspect that point has already long passed. The timeframe for designing, modelling, making a mould, etc etc, is not something that can be done in 5 minutes (Brivoki excepting )... so I very much doubt Mongoose is going o stop production for all that time even if 10 or 20 people on the forum say they don't like it!

 

[Greg Smith]

IMHO it does fit in with rest of the fleet. They all have nacelles.

Modify it. Cut the nacelles off or stick other bits on.

Or find a proxy.

 

[McKickaha]

Suspect Burger is absolutely right.

Sorry you feel so strongly about it Godsgopher, but personally quite like it. Not my favourite but nowhere near my least favourite either. In fact I like all of the new sculpts.

My hats off to the Mongoose sculptor.

Can't fault you on your warp nacelle labelling tho, guess may have thought the same subliminally, could explain why I painted them with a radiated energy type bit on the front.

Guess there will be a dreadnought maybe someday and who knows could be a chance for your arrow head design, alternatively, (although its very early days) and if you dislike it so much, you could always also follow the latter bit of my sig.

 

[godsgopher]

This is why i like these forums, Even when Im being negative, I get wonderfully thought out responses. Yes it probably is way past the re-design phase on something as large as a cruiser model. And really it is just the one model. The Mongoose Design and sculpting department does deserve a bow. you guys have done an outstanding job, one of the most important things about Sci-fi is establishing the visual impact. In fantasy everyone knows what an Elf and a Dwarf is, but who knows what a Vau is? Mongoose has defiantly brought Noble Armada to life for me. I remember looking at the old ships and even then the Decados were fantastic looking, but now the rest of the fleets are just as real to me as theirs is.

I many indeed try sculpting a proxy for myself, not that I'm talented at such things. Anyway Thank you all for your input, I did find it constructive.

 

[Rick]

Perhaps if you come up with an original design that looks good to you and fits in well with the rest of the fleet, you could suggest it as a "2nd cruiser" for the Li Halans. I think I may have come up with a competition for Mongoose to try, lol!

 

[godsgopher]

I never have tried to make a model before, but I guess there is a first time for everything, Would be great to see what other designs people could come up with. After all with several centuries of space travel behind humanity, there are probably thousands of different kinds of ships floating around out there. Its a great idea Rick.

 

[lastbesthope]

Hi all,

This is a question for anyone who has bought a Li Halan fleet set or some of the Peregrine Heavy Fighters.

I it just me or do the minis for these not look like the pictures on the website?

You have good eyes

Well I did just get a new prescription for my glasses

LBH

 

[H]

I would like to know if anyone else feels the same. If they do, lets "Do" something about it before Mongoose produces so many of the things they can't take a step back.

I suspect that point has already long passed. The timeframe for designing, modelling, making a mould, etc etc, is not something that can be done in 5 minutes (Brivoki excepting )... so I very much doubt Mongoose is going o stop production for all that time even if 10 or 20 people on the forum say they don't like it!

shhh, on'tday entionmay ethay ivokibray

I think Matt got a bit annoyed at our comments on the Brivoki!

but GG, seriously have a go, some great ship designs have appeared from scratchbuilds, a few interesting Liati designs certainly made it to the forums in the past. Even if it's modyfying the current model with a few spare bits from your warhammer (should you have it) *note, other wargame systems available, or a slice and dice. Through mongoose, and indeed alternative system history, their have always been models certain people didn't like, many rude comments were made at the Drakh Carrier, Liati, Brivoki (never made production) and suchlike.

 

[MongooseMatt]

This is why i like these forums, Even when Im being negative, I get wonderfully thought out responses.

And at Mongoose, we take these comments on board too.

I actually quite like the cruiser so no, I am afraid we won't be changing it. However, I like your flying wing idea, and will mention it to the modellers (we don't use sculptors for ships these days ) when we start adding a few new ships to the Li Halan fleet.

 

[H]

hmm, will any existing models from B5 get reused, ie the ones Mongoose designed? can't see many of them that fit into current fleet design, but the gaim are just too darn sexy to never be released again!

 

[godsgopher]

I highly doubt it for two reasons, One is that the designs are not part of the Fading Suns canon, but the second and bigger point is that the B5 models are on a total different and larger scale.

 

[H]

wasn't sure on scale, thoguh the smaller ships would still fit, re canon.... may i refer to you to B5, I would say 90% of the ships were not canon.

 

[Clanger]

The ship scales are very good against each other. Also they are a nice clean soild casting with only a few ships with any assembly (gun turrets and a few ships with little bits to afix).