I'd buy a Vorlon Planet Killer from Mongoose!
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captainsmirk
Mongoose
Can't find a full scale one on their product list but you're right about the FA scale ones.
Nick
Nick
LordClinto
Mongoose
Are there 2 different scales or 3 different scales for the "acceptable" minis?
MGP ACTA
AOG Fleet Action
Babylon 5 Wars? (I've seen minis from this but don't know what scale)
MGP ACTA
AOG Fleet Action
Babylon 5 Wars? (I've seen minis from this but don't know what scale)
captainsmirk
Mongoose
Mongoose bought the AoG moulds so ACTA ships are the same scale (in many cases the same minis) as B5wars.
The ACTA fighters were originally FA scale ones. B5wars used larger single fighters (the Vree patrol ship, can't remember the name is actually the B5wars scale Tyzmm fighter).
Nick
The ACTA fighters were originally FA scale ones. B5wars used larger single fighters (the Vree patrol ship, can't remember the name is actually the B5wars scale Tyzmm fighter).
Nick
Hmm, just looked at the scratchbuild Vorlon Planet Killer, It looks like a startrek Adira, or perhaps the Enterprise from the Jonathan Archer era, still, good use of the model for something else really, looks damned fine.
Personally, IF stats come lout for it, it HAS to be in the ancient level surely?
Personally, IF stats come lout for it, it HAS to be in the ancient level surely?
ShadowScout
Mongoose
Look towards AoG FA stuff (no release in full scale, sorry... but mongoose could do them...).
The Vorlon DN was just a little bigger heavy cruiser with eight instead of four tentacles and a rear gun, while the Shadow DN had the parts of the Cruiser with an additional larger part between the cruisers "top" and "middle" pieces...
And the problerm I have with the AoG V-PK is not the size in scale, but the size in general. I mean, come on, it's diameter is less then the Vree Xill, and only slightly larger then the Xorr... and as I wrote, it looks lost among my vorlon fleet.
Of course, I don't expect to see any improvements here... seeing that few people (myself included) would pay lots and lots of money for what is in effect a seldom-used piece of scenario terrain... but still...
Shadow Queen
Mongoose
lastbesthope said:
Youd buy any thing
Locutus9956
Mongoose
According to JMS as Ive said numerous times, the B5Wars rulebooks WERE Canon, and thats all I need to hear tbh as far as 'canonity' goes 
As for the Planet killer, the model for the scratch built one is an NX class (enterprise) ship with its necelles chopped off. An Akira has a a more raised necelle struts and a larger torpedo pod mounted on tha back
And lastly AoG never released any more ships for the Volons or Shadows in B5Wars scale than Mongoose have already made, but as said they did release dreadnoughts etc (and indeed a Vorlon Planet Killer (which I have
) in Fleet Action scale. Its a little on the small side of course for ACTA but its a nice miniature nonetheless.
As for the Planet killer, the model for the scratch built one is an NX class (enterprise) ship with its necelles chopped off. An Akira has a a more raised necelle struts and a larger torpedo pod mounted on tha back
And lastly AoG never released any more ships for the Volons or Shadows in B5Wars scale than Mongoose have already made, but as said they did release dreadnoughts etc (and indeed a Vorlon Planet Killer (which I have
) in Fleet Action scale. Its a little on the small side of course for ACTA but its a nice miniature nonetheless.Wulf Corbett
Mongoose
If WizKids had made a clicky game of B5 he's have said that was canon too. He was making money out of the AoG license, of course he'd support it, he's not stupid.Locutus9956 said:According to JMS as Ive said numerous times, the B5Wars rulebooks WERE Canon, and thats all I need to hear tbh as far as 'canonity' goes
Wulf
Wulf Corbett said:If WizKids had made a clicky game of B5 he's have said that was canon too. He was making money out of the AoG license, of course he'd support it, he's not stupid.Locutus9956 said:According to JMS as Ive said numerous times, the B5Wars rulebooks WERE Canon, and thats all I need to hear tbh as far as 'canonity' goes
Wulf
That is a bit rude.
JMS is one of last people to not care about "canonanity". He was terrified when WB wanted to make subtle changes. It was his show and he had creative control.
B5 also never grossed any real money... even the DVDs aren't going quite as well...
But the point is JMS did NOT take on to B5 Wars because of the money. He isn't that kind of person.
Wulf Corbett
Mongoose
Rude? How can it be rude? I think it's insulting to suggest that he WOULDN'T support a licensed product based on his creation. I think it's silly to think that he wouldn't have said the same regardles of who had that license. He supported his own product, essentially.Abraxas said:
Wulf
Greg Smith
Mongoose
He supported the novels initially but later decided they weren't canon. He has said the comics aren't canon even though they contain a story written by him and one implicitly connected to the show. He has a tendency to initially support licences and then later say they don't quite fit my vision.
Are the ships that were seen in the show well researched? Yes.
Is every variant in every Variants book canon? Is every tank and infantry unit created for GROPOS canon? No.
BTW, the DVDs did make money, so much so that WB have funded the production of new direct-to-DVD episodes.
Are the ships that were seen in the show well researched? Yes.
Is every variant in every Variants book canon? Is every tank and infantry unit created for GROPOS canon? No.
BTW, the DVDs did make money, so much so that WB have funded the production of new direct-to-DVD episodes.
Greg Smith said:
Oh, in real world money B5 has paid for itself. Yet, in Hollywood money-land, apparently, B5 has still not made a cent. Remember, kids, in the words of Freakazoid: "Always deal in gross, not net. The net is fantasy." (Or so my decades-old memory recalls, anyway.)
Locutus9956
Mongoose
Burger said:Can you provide a reference to back that up?Locutus9956 said:According to JMS as Ive said numerous times, the B5Wars rulebooks WERE Canon, and thats all I need to hear tbh as far as 'canonity' goes
As a matter of fact I can, its on the very first page of the B5Wars 2nd Ed Rules compendium in the preface written by JMS.
Don't have the book to hand at the moment but its something along the lines of "any time anyone asked me any questions about the techical specifications of any of the ships or weapons in B5 I refer them to these books".
QED
ps. this is not to say that I dont love ACTA too, I just think B5Wars felt 'closer to the show' in terms of fluff (though ACTA IS getting better
)And to chime in with the age old priority lvl debate.
You cant get spot on with ships, when youre forced to hit a certain point value spot on.
You are always left wondering if a ship is represented correctly or a bit shifted because it has to adhere to a certain lvl. (See the Vorchan)
You cant get spot on with ships, when youre forced to hit a certain point value spot on.
You are always left wondering if a ship is represented correctly or a bit shifted because it has to adhere to a certain lvl. (See the Vorchan)
Do you have any references that are not heavily biased? ie. independant sources?Locutus9956 said:Burger said:Can you provide a reference to back that up?Locutus9956 said:According to JMS as Ive said numerous times, the B5Wars rulebooks WERE Canon, and thats all I need to hear tbh as far as 'canonity' goes
As a matter of fact I can, its on the very first page of the B5Wars 2nd Ed Rules compendium in the preface written by JMS.
That quote doesn't say the stats are canon, it just says JMS refers people to B5W. Maybe he's just to busy to give the "proper" data and sends them there for non-canon-but-quite-good answers?Locutus9956 said:
