I like this Map
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seanbickford
Mongoose
Gamerprinter
Mongoose
Hello, my name Michael Tumey, and I'm a fantasy cartographer, and after reading this thread - I too think an artistically rendered, accurate map of Hyboria needs to be created, so I'm volunteering. I'm basing it on the accurate maps posted near the top of this thread.
http://hyboria.xoth.net/maps/vd_hyborian_age_full.jpg
Here's a sample map in the style I'm looking to create. Note, however, the mountains and hills in this map are not the type I'd use, more the traditional upsidedown "V"s and "U"s with peaks and ridges, hand lineart shading, etc. (Note the scale at the top of this map, this is a close-in regional map, not a continent or world map.)
A larger version is http://www.gamer-printshop.com/cbg/september-map-final.jpg
If you'd prefer "blue" in the water versus the uncolored parchment in this map, that's no problem. I just like the look of a parchment sea. As this map suggests, all terrain features will be hand-drawn with digital coloring and subtle beveling to enhance the work.
Though probably not those little notes - if I had all the research, maybe...
I will probably start after the first of the year. Though it should take me only a few weeks, at most to complete, probably less. If Mongoose should buy it, great, but I'm willing to do it none-the-less.
It might also be cool, to provide a regional or kingdom by kingdom map more like the above sample of at least Western Hyboria, with notes for Conan exploits there, or other noteable items of interest - cults, battlefields, etc.
Thoughts?
GP
http://hyboria.xoth.net/maps/vd_hyborian_age_full.jpg
Here's a sample map in the style I'm looking to create. Note, however, the mountains and hills in this map are not the type I'd use, more the traditional upsidedown "V"s and "U"s with peaks and ridges, hand lineart shading, etc. (Note the scale at the top of this map, this is a close-in regional map, not a continent or world map.)
A larger version is http://www.gamer-printshop.com/cbg/september-map-final.jpg
If you'd prefer "blue" in the water versus the uncolored parchment in this map, that's no problem. I just like the look of a parchment sea. As this map suggests, all terrain features will be hand-drawn with digital coloring and subtle beveling to enhance the work.
Though probably not those little notes - if I had all the research, maybe...
I will probably start after the first of the year. Though it should take me only a few weeks, at most to complete, probably less. If Mongoose should buy it, great, but I'm willing to do it none-the-less.
It might also be cool, to provide a regional or kingdom by kingdom map more like the above sample of at least Western Hyboria, with notes for Conan exploits there, or other noteable items of interest - cults, battlefields, etc.
Thoughts?
GP
VincentDarlage
Mongoose
Gamerprinter said:
Glad to hear it! (also, BTW, Keshan and Punt need to be switched around on that map. I thought I had sent thulsa the corrected map, but maybe I didn't).
Gamerprinter
Mongoose
I have already been contracted by Mongoose to create a battlemap for an upcoming Conan adventure - which is now complete. However, this has just happened and still awaiting contact by a flu-ridden staff.
My offer to artistically render Hyboria is my own initiative. Mongoose has not asked me to do so.
GP
PS: you should visit http://forum.cartographersguild.com where I and several other fantasy mappers have been contacted to freelance for Mongoose. We've got some of the best cartographers in the world as members, pros and amateurs both.
My offer to artistically render Hyboria is my own initiative. Mongoose has not asked me to do so.
GP
PS: you should visit http://forum.cartographersguild.com where I and several other fantasy mappers have been contacted to freelance for Mongoose. We've got some of the best cartographers in the world as members, pros and amateurs both.
seanbickford
Mongoose
I am very excited. This is exactly what Conan RPG needs.
Yay!
Yay!
seanbickford
Mongoose
I can't believe I typed, "Yay!"
Anyways, I'm excited
Anyways, I'm excited
Gamerprinter
Mongoose
Despite being known for my hand-drawn work, I use many styles to do my cartography work. Here's a temple map contest entry I recently did for Iron Crown Enterprises. You can find this in the Structure Forum and Finished Maps at Cartographers' Guild.
But here's a link to larger file...
http://www.gamer-printshop.com/cbg/sargoseum.jpg
Just to show you other stuff I create.
GP
But here's a link to larger file...
http://www.gamer-printshop.com/cbg/sargoseum.jpg
Just to show you other stuff I create.
GP
Style said:
OK, I've gone through all the maps in the Cartographers Choice gallery, and a few more under the Finished Maps gallery, and I've got to say the hand drawn you posted earlier is better than all of them:
http://www.gamer-printshop.com/cbg/september-map-final.jpg
I am seriously jacked!
It's good, at least, to see that mountain ridges and rivers make up the majority of the borders on the map, as would be the case for borders of ancient lands.
What about the remainder of the boders? Today's invention of straight borders equating to lines of longitude and latitude, would of course, be unknown in ancient times. Thoughts?
What about the remainder of the boders? Today's invention of straight borders equating to lines of longitude and latitude, would of course, be unknown in ancient times. Thoughts?
Gamerprinter
Mongoose
Even ancient cartography was used primarily as navigational sea charts. Whatever technology a given mariner would use, it no doubt still involved stars, the suns movement across the sky based on time of year. Straight lines would not be so alien to an ancient mariner. Line of sight is how things are measured to the horizon. Perhaps they couldn't sail a perfect line, but they would try as a goal.
Even if true longitudes or latitudes are not used, something in its place would replace it. Perhaps distance between meridians are a days travel on a 6 knot wind.
Conan was pirate, so we know that the world of the Hyborean Age had mariners who could cross the sea, or at least safely travel along the shore and knew where they were. At some point they would be lost from land and require some means to navigate and not blindly so using the sky to guide them.
If they had maps, they used some mathematical based chart system to divide the world to navigate it, no matter how primitive compared to modern means.
Borders will align to R.E.H.'s proper placement, which are along river/mountain systems, but arbitrary regions between similar terrain might exist as well, established through war no doubt. So a defined border would most likely exist, even a straight line.
However, the map doesn't really require a grid of any kind, so don't plan to place one, borders yes, terrain yes, but longitudes and latitudes, why?
GP
Even if true longitudes or latitudes are not used, something in its place would replace it. Perhaps distance between meridians are a days travel on a 6 knot wind.
Conan was pirate, so we know that the world of the Hyborean Age had mariners who could cross the sea, or at least safely travel along the shore and knew where they were. At some point they would be lost from land and require some means to navigate and not blindly so using the sky to guide them.
If they had maps, they used some mathematical based chart system to divide the world to navigate it, no matter how primitive compared to modern means.
Borders will align to R.E.H.'s proper placement, which are along river/mountain systems, but arbitrary regions between similar terrain might exist as well, established through war no doubt. So a defined border would most likely exist, even a straight line.
However, the map doesn't really require a grid of any kind, so don't plan to place one, borders yes, terrain yes, but longitudes and latitudes, why?
GP
I am aware that ancient mariners navigated by the stars.
Historically (if you'll look at ancient/medieval maps) you'll find that this wasn't used to establish boundaries of nations.
True, there were plenty of "fuzzy" disputed boundaries, which varied over time. Also, in ancient times, not all land was settled and plenty of land was claimed by no man. Not sure if that was true in the Hyborian Age.
Maps of historical ranges of American Indian tribal groups are interesting. On the map, they appear as amorphous blobs, but I'll bet when you get on the ground, they were probably defined by geographical features (rivers, mountains, the like).
Anyway, interesting cartological cogitations.
Historically (if you'll look at ancient/medieval maps) you'll find that this wasn't used to establish boundaries of nations.
True, there were plenty of "fuzzy" disputed boundaries, which varied over time. Also, in ancient times, not all land was settled and plenty of land was claimed by no man. Not sure if that was true in the Hyborian Age.
Maps of historical ranges of American Indian tribal groups are interesting. On the map, they appear as amorphous blobs, but I'll bet when you get on the ground, they were probably defined by geographical features (rivers, mountains, the like).
Anyway, interesting cartological cogitations.
seanbickford
Mongoose
I can't wait to see this new map, Style. How is it coming along?
Is my drooling too obvious?
Is my drooling too obvious?
Gamerprinter
Mongoose
I've created the continental coastal outline and began placing mountains in the north in Asgard.
However, I've been sidetracked - I have been commissioned to create a set of modern map objects for ProFantasy, plus I am working on a Ukiyo-e styled (Japanese Wood Block Print) isometric map objects for use in feudal Japan games, like Oriental Adventures, L5R, and Sengoku. So I got more work than expected this month. I will try to finish the world of the Hyborian Age by end of month, but that's going to tough.
GP
However, I've been sidetracked - I have been commissioned to create a set of modern map objects for ProFantasy, plus I am working on a Ukiyo-e styled (Japanese Wood Block Print) isometric map objects for use in feudal Japan games, like Oriental Adventures, L5R, and Sengoku. So I got more work than expected this month. I will try to finish the world of the Hyborian Age by end of month, but that's going to tough.
GP
