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[MasterGwydion]

RHB page 55 Storage Compartment 1st paragraph second sentence states "Each Slot dedicated to storage can hold approximately two kilograms or two litres and costs Cr50." The airlock portion is not included in the base storage compartment.

Here is the entire write-up so that nothing is taken out of context.

"
A storage compartment is an internal space within the robot sealed by a door or panel, usually accessible to its manipulators. Each Slot dedicated to storage can hold approximately two kilograms or two litres and costs Cr50. The storage compartment is protected by the robot’s armour and environmental enhancements but does not include an airlock.

Hazardous material storage requires special materials and other safeguards and costs r500 per Slot. In general, the material to be stored should be specified upon installation of a hazardous material storage compartment. If an airlock is desired, it should be considered as a separate hazardous material storage compartment of a Slot size large enough to accommodate the item that requires it."

Thank you for correcting Me.

 

[Technetium 98]

A storage compartment is an internal space within the robot sealed by a door or panel, usually accessible to its manipulators. Each Slot dedicated to storage can hold approximately two kilograms or two litres...

I was using the text on page 14, with corroboration from the 50-Slot medical chamber being explicitly able to hold a 150kg person. But if you want to be strict, 80kg is still workable. Far from universal, obviously, but height and weight limits for tankers (for example) exist for a reason.

If an airlock is desired...

Who said it was? Embark in a safe environment, exit to an unsafe one, disembark in a safe one. You don't need an airlock here.

 

[Hardwire]

80 kg is 176 lbs and that is a small man.

Look just because I disagree with it being classified as a suit of Battle Dress doesn't mean that others have to have the same opinion. Wrap yourself in aluminum foil and call it a battle cruiser if you want.

 

[MasterGwydion]

80 kg is 176 lbs and that is a small man.

Look just because I disagree with it being classified as a suit of Battle Dress doesn't mean that others have to have the same opinion. Wrap yourself in aluminum foil and call it a battle cruiser if you want.

I think it is more trying to build the Battle Dress using the exist methods at our disposal.

 

[Terry Mixon]

I think it is more trying to build the Battle Dress using the exist methods at our disposal.

Sadly, the current build rules don't encompass that.

 

[MasterGwydion]

Sadly, the current build rules don't encompass that.

This would likely fall under the needed rewrite of the FC build rules. Weapons and Armor kind of go together.

 

[Hardwire]

Robots were never designed or imagined as Battle Dress, It would be better to take the Battle Dress and build it with optional gear to make it feel like a robot. You can add a computer and where you can add a computer you can add AI, and intelligent agents, ETC.

 

[Hardwire]

I would even salute an attachment to the armor that was a robot. Almost like a backpack or something similar. The armor and the attached robot could work in unison.

 

[Sigtrygg]

Equip a suit of battledress with a computer with a virtual crew program...

the battledress contains the servos, motors, and actuators to move every limb of the suit. It is usually commanded to do so by the haptic feedback from the person wearing it. I do not think it is much of a stretch to have a small robot brain or computer that can provide the signals the haptics would...

 

[MasterGwydion]

and the Slots from the Robot Handbook can be used with Battle Dress. So, almost anything with a Slot size could be added on to the armor.

 

[Hardwire]

Yes, and then you do not need to jury rig a system that wasnt meant to do what you want you can work withing current rules.

 

[J. L. Brown]

Okay, it is possible to get something like a suit of BD out the other end -- but the person is actually riding around inside a specially prepared airlock. How many 'Battle Dress Modification Slots' does a design have? How does this interact with 'General Suit options'? The default electronics suite?

I think we are running up against the nonsense underpinning the robot 'slots' to vehicle 'spaces' to starship 'dTons' all over again.

Per page 14 of Robot Handbook

Four Size 5 humanoid robots could be squeezed into a closet of 0.5 tons in a fashion that would allow only one robot to emerge at a time.

That is pretty explicitly 32x4 = 128 slots per 0.5 dTon with no access or comfort allocated. That makes 128 'slots' = 7000 liters = 7 cubic meters.

7000 / 128 is *not* 'two or three liters'.

 

[Technetium 98]

I think we are running up against the nonsense underpinning the robot 'slots' to vehicle 'spaces' to starship 'dTons' all over again.

... i'ma beg you right now, please don't start up in this thread, alright

 

[Hardwire]

Okay, it is possible to get something like a suit of BD out the other end -- but the person is actually riding around inside a specially prepared airlock. How many 'Battle Dress Modification Slots' does a design have? How does this interact with 'General Suit options'? The default electronics suite?

I think we are running up against the nonsense underpinning the robot 'slots' to vehicle 'spaces' to starship 'dTons' all over again.

Per page 14 of Robot Handbook

That is pretty explicitly 32x4 = 128 slots per 0.5 dTon with no access or comfort allocated. That makes 128 'slots' = 7000 liters = 7 cubic meters.

7000 / 128 is *not* 'two or three liters'.

Not really sure why you are trying to reverse engineer and number, when it is spelled out in no uncertain term in the exact heading that it is pertinent to. It clearly stats in the Storage Compartment write-up that it is 2kg per space.

 

[Sigtrygg]

The crew compartment could be the same size as a medical chamber - 32 slots.

 

[ProfGrizzlyJon]

Is there a way to use the Robot sheet to design a suit of Battle Dress?

Absolutely. You just have to "fill it" with a cargo compartment for the sophont inside.
I have used it to create low-tech Battledress, Guyver-like biosuits, and other wearable robots.

 

[ProfGrizzlyJon]

The crew compartment could be the same size as a medical chamber - 32 slots.

A human takes up double (32 slots), but, since this is worn, I would not add additional slot requirements.

 

[Technetium 98]

Without wishing to sound self-centered - and acknowledging that I did start this - can this thread go back to the spreadsheets?

 

[ProfGrizzlyJon]

Without wishing to sound self-centered - and acknowledging that I did start this - can this thread go back to the spreadsheets?

Not until someone posts a Virushi Battle Dress created using your spreadsheet.

 

[Technetium 98]

... someone did ask me to include size 9/10 robots...