That would certainly be nice, but I would be satisfied with the pdf being cheap for those who already own the book - like maybe $5. I don't want to basically pay full (or nearly full) price for the same product in two formats.Rurik said:[rant=] Does anyone lese here feel that if you pay for a printed copy of a book you should be entitled to the PDF at no additional cost?[/rant]
Fiddler said:I'm the same way with patience as you Rurik, but I am sure we do not suffer alone.
As for beat downs on the forum why that just is an initiation ritual into the Mongoose tribe.
All Hail the STORM MONGOOSE!!! :twisted:
kpmcdona said:That would certainly be nice, but I would be satisfied with the pdf being cheap for those who already own the book - like maybe $5. I don't want to basically pay full (or nearly full) price for the same product in two formats.Rurik said:[rant=] Does anyone lese here feel that if you pay for a printed copy of a book you should be entitled to the PDF at no additional cost?[/rant]
Fiddler said:All Hail the STORM MONGOOSE!!! :twisted:
Rurik said:[rant=] Does anyone lese here feel that if you pay for a printed copy of a book you should be entitled to the PDF at no additional cost?[/rant]
atgxtg said:Rurik said:[rant=] Does anyone lese here feel that if you pay for a printed copy of a book you should be entitled to the PDF at no additional cost?[/rant]
Entitled to? No. Would like to see it that way? Certainly. Expect to see? No.
Nice try though.
Rurik said:[rant=] Does anyone lese here feel that if you pay for a printed copy of a book you should be entitled to the PDF at no additional cost?[/rant]
Rurik said:And yes, Storm Bull has been changed to Storm Mongoose as a form of corporate branding. I'm not sure if that is "Gregging" or "Matting". The cult is now dedicated to the eradication of snakes instead of chaos. Don't even get me started on the Rikki Tikki Tavi subcult....
Cobra said:I'm surprised that Mongoose even offers a PDF since they can't control the number of copies people will print and distribute to their friends, cutting into their bottom line. You should be thankful you can even purchase a PDF at all.
Cobra said:Rurik said:[rant=] Does anyone lese here feel that if you pay for a printed copy of a book you should be entitled to the PDF at no additional cost?[/rant]
No!!!?
Are you suggesting that each poorly paid artist and writer (those jobs are hard enough slogs even when not limited to the RPG market!) should give up a small piece of their income because you proudly bought one copy of their book? That's pretty cheeky!
I'm surprised that Mongoose even offers a PDF since they can't control the number of copies people will print and distribute to their friends, cutting into their bottom line. You should be thankful you can even purchase a PDF at all.
If you want Mongoose, or anybody, to continue to produce quality material for you, you should be prepared to pony up for each copy that you get. These people aren't rock stars, you know. :wink:
Cobra
Cobra said:Rurik said:And yes, Storm Bull has been changed to Storm Mongoose as a form of corporate branding. I'm not sure if that is "Gregging" or "Matting". The cult is now dedicated to the eradication of snakes instead of chaos. Don't even get me started on the Rikki Tikki Tavi subcult....
This, ahhh, give me the creepssss.
Cobra
Cobra said:No!!!?
Are you suggesting that each poorly paid artist and writer (those jobs are hard enough slogs even when not limited to the RPG market!) should give up a small piece of their income because you proudly bought one copy of their book? That's pretty cheeky!
Cobra
atgxtg said:Cobra said:No!!!?
Are you suggesting that each poorly paid artist and writer (those jobs are hard enough slogs even when not limited to the RPG market!) should give up a small piece of their income because you proudly bought one copy of their book? That's pretty cheeky!
Cobra
I believe those "poorly paid" artitis and wrtiers are not working on commsion, etierh. They are paid a fee to produce the product. So even if we all went out and bougth 100 copies each of an RPG it wouldn't mean 100 times the pay for the artitis and wrtiers. 100 times the profits for you local store, thier distrubutor, and so un up the chain to Mongoose.
So even if we all went out and bougth 100 copies each of an RPG it wouldn't mean 100 times the pay for the artitis and wrtiers.
Mongoose Steele said:However, we get a normal salary like anyone else punching a clock. The difference is that when our books do well we can sometimes win awards and stuff, which always helps to keep us employed for a long, long time.
Mongoose Steele said:But, as a writer/designer, I do not fear the pdf craze. Actually, we sell alot of pdfs to people who just don't want to shell out for shipping, or use their laptops as their bag of books, so to speak. Me personally, I like having a shelf full of hard copies, but to each their own...y'know?
Mongoose Steele said:Well, back to the project at hand (which I feel all of ya's are gonna love!)...
Dead Blue Clown said:atgxtg said:Cobra said:No!!!?
Are you suggesting that each poorly paid artist and writer (those jobs are hard enough slogs even when not limited to the RPG market!) should give up a small piece of their income because you proudly bought one copy of their book? That's pretty cheeky!
Cobra
I believe those "poorly paid" artitis and wrtiers are not working on commsion, etierh. They are paid a fee to produce the product. So even if we all went out and bougth 100 copies each of an RPG it wouldn't mean 100 times the pay for the artitis and wrtiers. 100 times the profits for you local store, thier distrubutor, and so un up the chain to Mongoose.
Not that I'm getting involved in the overall debate; I'm just curious about one thing. Are you putting "poorly paid" in quotation marks because it's a direct quote, or a quote you don't lend much credence to?
Rurik said:While most staff writers are on salary, I have always assumed the "major authors" (not to belittle staff writers - you guys are the backbone of many companies)) get some form of royalties, such as Robin Laws on the Glorantha book. [./quote]
I don't think so. Major authors are able to negitate for a more substantial payment. But there really aren't very many people out there who are considered "maojor authors" for any particular RPG.