Glorantha 2nd age. What happens ?
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frogspawner
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That Androgeus quote comes from the Dragon Pass wargame rules (and probably WB&RM before that - can someone confirm?), in which he has exactly the same stats as Jareel and Harrek. So she obviously qualifies as one of the Five, if they do...
gamesmeister
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TRose said:
IIRC, ten humans survive the Dragonkill, one of which is Delecti. According to Tales, he makes a deal with some Dragonewts to make them immortal and escape the cycle of rebirth, in exchange for protection from the Dragons.
Actually, more people than that survive the Dragonkill. It says somewhere that people managed to escape and head back home quietly. Presumably to escape being noticed by the dragons.
In one of the articles abou the Old Wind Temple, it says that the people there claimed to have survived the Dragonkill. The Tusk Riders probably survived Dragonkill as well, as their temple is in Dragon Pass and they seem to have been active during the Trollish occupation. In my Glorantha, the riverfolk of the Upland Marsh survived as well, but that may only be true in my game.
There were a lot of refugees who fled southwards and northwards into Heortling territory. Some may have gone into Prax as well, but that tends to eat people up. Whether they fled before the Dragonkill event or during or after it, I don't know. Most of the Invincible Golden Horde died, but some survived to tell tales of what had happened.
In one of the articles abou the Old Wind Temple, it says that the people there claimed to have survived the Dragonkill. The Tusk Riders probably survived Dragonkill as well, as their temple is in Dragon Pass and they seem to have been active during the Trollish occupation. In my Glorantha, the riverfolk of the Upland Marsh survived as well, but that may only be true in my game.
There were a lot of refugees who fled southwards and northwards into Heortling territory. Some may have gone into Prax as well, but that tends to eat people up. Whether they fled before the Dragonkill event or during or after it, I don't know. Most of the Invincible Golden Horde died, but some survived to tell tales of what had happened.
By survived.. I should mean survive and continued to live in Dragon pass. I dont count the tuskriders cause they are not full humans. And as far as those fleeing ,Im sure there where plenty of Orlanthi that where happy they bought guide teleportation when the Dragons awoke. The Human slaves of the Dwarf of Dwarf run (If he is Flintail) would of survived as he would have shut his front door and put out a sign closed for inventory.. The Dragons and Dragonewts would not have spent much time hunting peasants and such fleeing as fast as they could but went out after those Warriors and magic users that had threaten them. Peasant and such would have been slain if they thied to stay and hide or if they where around when the Dragons where hungry. Not sure if the Telemori where in dragon pass then, but they could have been spared if they where cause they are not also fully human and where not a threat to the Dragonewts
But Delecti though survived on his own and the Dragons would have wanted him to come over for dinner.
I also would not be surprised if more Godlearners survived then Delecti, but the survivors would have been very powerful ,Unorthodox(enough to be exiled by normal Godlearners) and be the type that liked to stay hidden even in the best of times. but then I like the idea of some crazy old wizard on a remote island who has a big go ,Tresppassers will be turned into lawn decorations sign on his tower.
But Delecti though survived on his own and the Dragons would have wanted him to come over for dinner.
I also would not be surprised if more Godlearners survived then Delecti, but the survivors would have been very powerful ,Unorthodox(enough to be exiled by normal Godlearners) and be the type that liked to stay hidden even in the best of times. but then I like the idea of some crazy old wizard on a remote island who has a big go ,Tresppassers will be turned into lawn decorations sign on his tower.
I think that Delecti survives because he didn't, if you get my meaning.
In my opinion, he was killed then came back again as the spirit inhabiting a corpse. He probably turned the ground around his Villa into mush before that, though, to keep the Invincible Golden Horde out, but that didn't work and they came in to kill him - they must have had boats or something.
Once he was dead, the Dragons didn't really want to know. Then one of his followers came along, said "Hello, boss, I thought you were dead", was asked to lie down on this operating table and hey presto, Delecti lives again.
I don't think the Telmori were around then, they came just before Sartar did his magicy stuff.
The dragons/dragonewts probably didn't have anything particularly against humans as they allowed the Grazelanders in just after Dragonkill, although they weren't part of the EWF so perhaps they didn't count.
I forgot about the Dwarf's human slaves, thanks, they probably didn't count as being human and sat behind a dirty big cannon, which probably counts for a fair bit.
Now, how would Delecti, Master of the Undead, make Dragonewts Immortal? I reckon they got the wrong end of the deal.
In my opinion, he was killed then came back again as the spirit inhabiting a corpse. He probably turned the ground around his Villa into mush before that, though, to keep the Invincible Golden Horde out, but that didn't work and they came in to kill him - they must have had boats or something.
Once he was dead, the Dragons didn't really want to know. Then one of his followers came along, said "Hello, boss, I thought you were dead", was asked to lie down on this operating table and hey presto, Delecti lives again.
I don't think the Telmori were around then, they came just before Sartar did his magicy stuff.
The dragons/dragonewts probably didn't have anything particularly against humans as they allowed the Grazelanders in just after Dragonkill, although they weren't part of the EWF so perhaps they didn't count.
I forgot about the Dwarf's human slaves, thanks, they probably didn't count as being human and sat behind a dirty big cannon, which probably counts for a fair bit.
gamesmeister said:
Now, how would Delecti, Master of the Undead, make Dragonewts Immortal? I reckon they got the wrong end of the deal.
The King
Cosmic Mongoose
Isn't it highly probable that things went wrong in Delecti experiment? I'd say he wanted to reproduce the dragonnewts cycle of life and death and rebirth but he died and when he came back he still was dead. He could change body (as the dragonnewts in their eggs) but the whole process is somewhat corrupted as he can only integrate dead bodies.soltakss said:
The dwarf does have a big dirty cannon manned by human slaves. Its a a big ,polished cannon, nice and shiny.
And I dont know if Delecti experiment went wrong or not the way he survived. But if you want to go ask him be my guest. You can tell me his answer while I wait at the local Humakt tempe. Just in case the Daughters of Darkness think you would make a swell dinner guest.
And I dont know if Delecti experiment went wrong or not the way he survived. But if you want to go ask him be my guest. You can tell me his answer while I wait at the local Humakt tempe. Just in case the Daughters of Darkness think you would make a swell dinner guest.
gamesmeister said:
Don't take that "ten humans survived the Dragonkill" literally. It is not a real number but a poetic description of the carnage. And Delecti is not considered a survivor of the Dragonkill given that he is dead - and because he stays in cursed Dragon Pass.
Jeff
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